[Clipart] Librarians be aware of http://www.freeclipartnow.com

[Leonardo Cunha]

Hi,

Not that my opinion matters, but I'm too against taking clipart from sites
that make exceptions like these. Particularly the specified website. As
someone already said, if they wrongly distribute Disney clipart as Public
Domain, we can't be sure the other alleged PD clipart they distribute are
really PD.

Also, if you say "This is PD but you can't use commercially", it looks like
you know what you want / don't want ("I don't want commercial use!"), but
you don't know what the appropriate license would be. If the person /
website does not know what he/she/it is doing, that does not seem too "safe"
to me.

I am sure new contributors and contributions are always welcomed, but I
don't think we need to take this kind of risk.

Sorry for my bad English. Hope you get the ideas.

Best regards from a non librarian but a big fan of the project lol,
Leonardo Cunha
(laobc)



2010/6/16 chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>

>  Yes we did have this issue, but on different clipart. I was just
> supporting the conclusion that I read from that thread.
>
> I think it does matter that other sites restrict use of their stuff. As I
> said on some other issues, I really don't care, either way, I just want to
> be sure I'm taking the right actions. I don't like to make this kind of
> messy "legal" and "moral" decision, so I'll support the decision we come to.
> I've been trying to pin Jon down on this issue for awhile now for him to
> make a decision on it, but he keeps dodging. :-) Ultimately it's "his" site,
> so a decision from him on this would be nice. Do we ignore their Few
> Exceptions or do we consider their PD free-game (and us viewed as a
> "bully".)
>
> At the moment I think our policy on "safe" PD stops us from using any
> clipart from sites that make silly exceptions like this, because once you
> put any requirements on a PD clipart, it's no longer PD.
>
> I would like some clarity on this, and I think ultimatelt only the Site
> Owners (Jon + ?) can decide. We can try to influence them either way.
>
> I'm against taking clipart from sites that make exceptions like these. John
> Olson is against (as far as I understand.) I think Nicubunu might be
> against, but I'm not sure.
> Jarod is for "not caring" about their exceptions.
>
> Anyone else want to have their say?
>
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>
>
>
> On 16/06/2010 6:21 p.m., Jarod Russel wrote:
>
> Didn't we had this just the other day? If their cliparts are pd than their
> "Few Exceptions" do not matter, except for the logo and trademark one. Such
> restrictions are pointless and can be ignored with real pd material.
>
> Am 16-Jun-10 02:51 PM, schrieb chovynz:
>
> Clipart from http://www.freeclipartnow.com cannot be accepted.
> Taken from http://www.freeclipartnow.com/termsofuse.php on 16 June 2010,
> at 5:46pm
>
> *"Product Usage*
> All graphics on this site are placed into the Public Domain, which means
> that you can do almost whatever you wish with it. You can put the clipart
> into your own drawings and documents without any affect on the copyright or
> license of your work.
>
> Few Exceptions.
>
>    - Company logos and trademarks can be used under "fair use" policy.
>    More info here <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos>.
>    - You may NOT use any component of our clipart or site content to
>    produce what could be directly or indirectly considered a competitive
>    venture against us.
>    - It's not necessary to provide a link back to this site, but it would
>    be greatly appreciated"
>
> Clipart affected.
> http://www.openclipart.org/index.php?pretty=detail/67141
>
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