[Clipart] Fwd: misuse of one of our images

[Jon Phillips]

:) you are cool!

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:57 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok. Thanks Jarod.
> I'll follow up on the rest of Liftarn's collection when I get some time.
> Might be slow progress, but at least it's progress in making OCAL safer for
> Public Domain.
>
> "Safety First Sir!"
> "OCAL! The first (and last) bastion of truely Public Domain."
>
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>
> On 22/06/2010 5:01 p.m., Jarod Russel wrote:
>>
>> I am afraid I don't have enough time to go through his 260 cliparts. I
>> simply clicked a bunch of his submission randomly. Every of those
>> submissions has an external link of a website in it. Thats why I suggested
>> to check better the whole collection.
>>
>> Here are other images from radicalgraphics
>>
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1093
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1083
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1086
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1078
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1065
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1069
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1076
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1070
>>
>> We had a discussion here on the list about the red pirate ship image quite
>> a while ago. If I remember right radicalgraphics stated that anyone could
>> have uploaded this image to their website and that the rights aren't clear.
>>
>> I am also concerned about this graphic
>>
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/11204
>>
>> In the description is stated it is converted from a CD. They might be more
>> than this one.
>>
>> Other cliparts I have checked where from wiki.commons or wp-clipart. Those
>> should be fine.
>>
>> Am 22-Jun-10 01:16 PM, schrieb chovynz:
>>>
>>> I've had a brief look. We can certainly hide it for now, until it's
>>> sorted out.
>>>
>>> Some thoughts.
>>> 1) OCAL's version was uploaded on at 2006-10-31 14:09:13. Three and a
>>> half years ago.
>>> 2) OCAL's version states it came from
>>> http://radicalgraphics.org/collection/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Resistance&id=Resist02
>>> 3) Can Ron and Joe provide proof the original is theirs? When was their
>>> one uploaded? (I'm not being difficult, just asking for proof.) They have
>>> stated it's theirs, now I would like to see proof. A terms of use from their
>>> site would be nice too, since it's also possible someone "bought" a copy,
>>> then uploaded it.
>>> 4) Radicalgraphics might not be a reliable source. I can't find a terms
>>> of use, or terms of upload, other than the front page.
>>>
>>> I've hidden the cookingpot clipart for now, while this is being sorted
>>> out.
>>>
>>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1084
>>>
>>>
>>> @Jarod
>>> "In the quick look I had on Liftarn's submission just now it looks like
>>> most or all of his submissions are traced images from other websites. Often
>>> wiki.commons but I found another image from radicalgraphics and several from
>>> other sites. Maybe a librarian should look over the whole collection. "
>>>
>>> Since you've already had a look, can you find out which ones are suspect,
>>> and give me a list? (Please make a new topic addressed to clipart and CC
>>> me.) Take special note of ones traced from radicalgraphics.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Chovynz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/06/2010 12:43 p.m., Jon Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all, what do you guys think about this? Can a librarian look into
>>>> this issue? Liftarn submitted this...
>>>>
>>>> While normally a lawyer would advise us to keep this all private, we
>>>> should discuss this stuff when it happens.
>>>>
>>>> Ron has been cool about this, but we should definitely look into if
>>>> this is a problematic clipart, and respond or delete it.
>>>>
>>>> Liftarn, are you on this list? Bassel, did you get the emailing users
>>>> capability added? We really need to be able to message artists and
>>>> others now to get info about cliparts.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Ron Romain<ron at ronandjoe.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:04 AM
>>>> Subject: misuse of one of our images
>>>> To: jon at rejon.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Ron Romain<ron at ronandjoe.com>
>>>> Subject: misuse of one of our images
>>>>
>>>> Message Body:
>>>> Hi Jon.
>>>>
>>>> My name is Ron from Ron and Joe, Inc. - creators of Art Parts Clip
>>>> Art. A customer of ours ran across one of our images on your
>>>> openclipart.org site.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a link to the image on your site:
>>>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/1084
>>>>
>>>> Here's a link to our image on our site:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ronandjoe.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=APTS-007350
>>>>
>>>> Would you please make sure that this image is removed from your site
>>>> as soon as possible, then reply to me.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Ron Romain
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> http://rejon.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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