[Clipart] Fwd: More nsfw stuff

[chovynz]

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From: John Olsen <johnny_automatic at mac.com>
Date: Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: More nsfw stuff
To: chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>


 I suspect this is no more than someone testing autotrace who has a
taste for naked ladies.  I doubt they are his images.  I do worry
about the autotrace>svg thing.  It is just opening Pandora's box.
Someone writes a couple of scripts and you could have mine the whole
interent, autotrace it and post it here.  That would be ugly.

John

On Monday, May 03, 2010, at 01:45PM, "chovynz" <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
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 Hello Librarians, Admins, and Developers.

http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/share

Do you reckon this person is vectorising images that are not his? I'm
starting to suspect so since the two females are different people.
Basically, we have no proof that these are PD anymore, and no way (that I
know of) of contacting him and asking.

What could we do to

   - help protect OCAL first (obviously if someone complains of copyright
   violation, we take it down, but by then it would probably have already been
   on OCAL for awhile,)
    - secondly, protect the people in the cliparts - remembering that PD
   clipart can be used for *any purpose *including commercial or defamation,

    - thirdly protection of the Users of OCAL - it would be very easy for
   someone to download these cliparts and unknowningly use a copyrighted image,

    - fourthly I personally don't want to see OCAL become a repository for
   porn. There is so much more uses for a PD library than that. If that happens
   then yes, OCAL DOES need filters that work properly. It looks like there is
   a trend of uploading these types of images.


Would it be a good idea for every clipart that has a vectorised person in it
like these to have a model release form uploaded as well? I previously
thought that was too restrictive, but am starting to think it would be a
good idea. Also I would like to see all NSFW checked cliparts to not appear
in *any* search. I suggest a nsfw toggle in the users preferences that they
can display nsfw clipart if they choose to. By default this would be off.

I'm quite serious about the porn repository issue. Schools and universities
cannot use OCAL until it is a "safe" environment. I don't like to let my 6
year olds or other kids on OCAL until I know they won't find things. (For
the moment, I go hunting and print out appropriate pictures for them to draw
on and colour in - but searches like "girl", and "green", "stand", "school"
will show some things that are not age appropriate.) Same goes for churches.
They won't like to use this until there is some "safety".

If we as OCAL are going to supply PD images (which is great!) then we also
need to provide protection for minors, and for age.

More support for this stance :
https://answers.launchpad.net/openclipart/+question/107881

If there is background work going on, on the nsfw issues, then please let us
know. From my point of view, nothing is happening. Feel free to correct me
if I'm wrong.

So; two issues.
1. Are these clipart from user:share actually PD? How do we know?
2. What's the plan for protection for minors from OCAL's side on the issue
of nsfw and age appropriateness?


-- 
Cheers
Chovynz



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Cheers
Chovynz
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