[Clipart] Copyright lawyer

[Greg Bulmash]

The question is not just whether Popeye is copyrighted or trademarked.
It looks like the submitter vectorized an illustration. Even if the
character isn't under copyright anymore, that particular illustration
of Popeye may well be copyrighted and still protected.

Santa Claus isn't copyrighted or trademarked, but there are lots of
depictions of him that are.

- Greg

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:28 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
> More info on it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Popeye#Public_Domain_status.3F
>
> Some say yes. Some say no to popeye being public domain. I cannot possibly
> know, but I do know that those cliparts are providing potentially
> copyrighted images. Do we continue to have them on the site (and allowing
> more people to have those cliparts under a false sense of security of OCAL
> claiming that all it's stuff is PD) or do we remove them (on the grounds
> that they might be copyrighted)?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For instance:
>>
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/20989
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/21046
>>
>> Falls into the grey areas. Under EU popeye is now public domain. In the
>> US, popey is still trademarked until 2024. Does this mean that we should
>> remove popeye from OCAL since OCAL is in and under US law?
>>
>> That pocket lawyer would be able to answer this question better than I.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:08 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not worried about OCAL getting sued, im more : "need input". Instead
>>> of having arguments on here about what is what and where by people who have
>>> or havent made a complete or partial study of copyright, we could have our
>>> own "pocket lawyers" that we could turn to when disagreements are present,
>>> or when knowledge is not enough. (e.g. The current debian logo thread.)
>>>
>>> This person or group of people could be the ones to follow up, find out,
>>> research what the legal standing is of various reported cliparts are, if it
>>> falls into those grey areas. I don't really want to be doing this as a
>>> librarian.
>>>
>>> I think having a group of people/lawyers who have made copyright their
>>> study area a necessity, and something that would be beneficial to OCAL at
>>> large. I'm not a lawyer, and don't want to be. Is there someone else? <grin>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Chovynz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't worry too much...I'm more worried about us keeping the high
>>>> quality clipart up!
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:48 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you really need to find someone who we can ask specifically
>>>>> about copyright law. There are many grey and or shady areas that we layman
>>>>> and designers don't know about. I tend to err on the side of caution when it
>>>>> comes to removing clipart or infringing clipart from the site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps a team of copyright lawyers in different countries would be a
>>>>> good thing to have up OCAL's sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> One at least in the US because OCAL is based in the US, and is a
>>>>> registered US website.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Chovynz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jon Phillips
>>>> http://rejon.org/
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>>>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>> Chovynz
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chovynz
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>
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