[PATCH] Revert "menu: add Adult category to registry"

Vincent Untz vuntz at gnome.org
Thu Dec 1 00:07:59 PST 2011


Hi,

Le mercredi 23 novembre 2011, à 13:38 +0000, Peter TB Brett a écrit :
> This reverts commit c51aa112f53adc87250177002aa3e008305e0777.
> 
> There are several serious issues with the stated rationale for and
> intended use of the "Adult" Additional Category that have yet to be
> resolved.

FWIW, I don't care much about that category. But:

> - The menu specification is designed for worldwide application, and
>   thus must be culturally impartial.  Different cultures have
>   different criteria for something that is "adult-only".  Ambiguous
>   examples provided on the XDG list include "Bible" and "Art Gallery"
>   applications.

True. But on the other hand, past examples have shown that we can be
blocked forever (for instance: the discussion on something like a
Religion category). And moving forward with something that is not
perfect is better than staying blocked.

> - Given a set of criteria for what constitutes "Adult" content, the
>   categorisation is binary, but whether an application is "Adult" is
>   not.  Ambiguous examples provided on the XDG list include a
>   "Breastfeeding Tutorial" application; the "PornView" application,
>   which does not in fact include or provide access to any pornography;
>   web browsers, which provide access to a wealth of pornography on the
>   Internet; and text adventure games that include the possibility of
>   violent death.

Hrm, this is probably an argument that is valid for all categories :-)
It's really up to app developers to use the relevant categories, and
then to distributors to decide if those should be overridden or not.

> - The purpose of the "Category" field in .desktop files is to aid in
>   organisation of applications into a navigable hierarchy.  By
>   contrast, the proponents of the "Adult" Additional Category view the
>   "Adult" additional category is as a tool for censorship.

Hrm, I don't think it's censorship: the apps are still there, after all.
It's filtering, and filtering is actually what the menu spec is about.
Sure, in this case, it's filtering to hide stuff.

> Until these issues are addressed and consensus is achieved, this
> category should be removed.  In the interim period, there is no
> obstacle to Menu Specification implementors using Additional
> Categories not listed in the Specification, should they wish to do so.

Do you see any way those issues can be addressed?

The way I see it, it's just additional metadata that is not used by
default and that people can use if they want. So I'm not that much
worried about it.

Vincent

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