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Carl Worth cworth at cworth.org
Thu Dec 2 10:00:49 PST 2004


On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:37:25 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
> > Is there any reason not to just rewrite the wiki/ off for
> > everything? It just looks like an implementation detail leaking
> > out to the person reading the website...

I agree with this point entirely.

> Not easily.  You have to continue to make regular files and other cgi 
> scripts available somehow, and attempting to 'guess' which URLs are part 
> of the wiki and which point elsewhere is a pain.  We had a lot of rewrite 
> rules in the old site and it was rather fragile.

I actually had the old cairographics.org site working quite well with
mixed static and wiki content at the top-level without leaking much
implementation detail into the URL. I'll be the first to admit I didn't
have a minimal set of clean rewrite rules to accomplish this, but it did
work.

I've been trying to get that same thing working now with moin rather
than twiki, (and in a cleaner way so tat I could recommend it for
non-cairo uses). Moin makes it harder since it insists on generating
absolute links, (and that's not trivial to fix I found). I'm still
planning to spend a bit more time on the issue soon though.

All of this is why I said *if* we decide that "/wiki" is part of the
canonical name.

> > (I wonder if there is some way to configure Moin to emit
> > URIs with / rather than _2f... That's a far worse implementation
> > detail leaking out.)
> 
> Carl tried for a day or so; it's harder than it should be.

I haven't actually tried fixing this, but I think it's just a bug. I
checked the newer (unreleased) version of moin and it does not suffer
from this bug.

-Carl



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