Question about the future of Xorg

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On 09.06.2025 09:52, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

> the idea for wayland is that there will be competing compositors like there are
> competing wm's(/compositors/desktops) based on x11. this competition allows for
> innovation but there is still agreement on the "bounds" between regular apps
> and these - so an app can display and work in all desktops pretty much the same
> (unless it starts to enter the domains of what each desktop does and assume
> things it shoudln't). wayland is the same. it doesn't cay a lot of x11 baggage.

This is not a progress for my opinion - this some sort of regression
Instead of one high experienced X11 team - there will be a lot of small teams which will try to show off and crate a different wm/compositors
But wm/compositors is not a application or widget that can be de-installed. It is the most important part of the Linux desktop
Part that attract users, part that creates positive/negative experience on ALL Linux distribution at all.
And if it fails - people say - Linux suck.
Desktop team may not have such developers at all. For example XFCE.

This all will create a lot of different wm/compositors without one solid direction of development.

Issue is not that wayland needs some maturity, but wm/compositors need to be developed.
But who is going to do it? Gnome team? KDE team? XFCE team?

Do you think they are happy to re-write code and create unique GNOME/KDE/XFCE approach for GNOME/KDE/XFCE wm/compositors?
Take a look on browser engines history. When developers refused to support windows browsers or firefox.
That is very similar what wayland is doing.