Question about the future of Xorg

[Vladimir Dergachev]

On Tue, 10 Jun 2025, Fungal-net wrote:

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> On Tuesday, 250610, Olivier Galibert <galibert at pobox.com> wrote:
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>> The problems are the reasons why Wayland is inferior, e.g. the integration of the window manager into the server (making customization so much more difficult) and
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> In the past while discussing functionality with core devs of a wl wm their refusal to tackle an alternating behavior of some usually X very core choice in wm, was misunderstood.  But what you state here explains perfectly well why a wm designer will not go to war with wlroot (example) choices to alter behavior.
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>> the balkanization that results from it
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> Hey, watch it!
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> It is hard to digest why so many people here and at this level will mention "desktop" when what they are talking about is the layer below them, the wm.  It brings memories of the famous reaction by Poettering "what do you have against disabled people" back to the foreground.
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> My main negativity source with wlr-stuff is that I can't as easily shift from user to user to user within one session and run the same or other applications as different user.  To just run the application containerized as if it is a different session prohibits communication of (clip cut and paste functionality).  Say you have your work split as projects and each project has its own user, so "sudo -u proj34 abiword" and "sudo -u proj25 mercury" can't share their clipboard, test or binary.  There are ways to cheat this and have a common access saved buffer but it is too much of a hack and hastle to get all this generically working.
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> So no matter how much I like labwc it will not replace my X wm choices.

On X you would just do "xhost +" and do what you need to do.

best

Vladimir Dergachev

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> If my coding skills were anywhere near enough to rewrite vtwm I would, but you can't teach an old dog new code.  Next life maybe.
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