Status of island-track copyright

[Christoph Egger]

Hi!

Joerg Henrichs schrieb:
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I'm the person who brought supertuxkart 0.5 into the Debian archive
>> and am currently working on your new release 0.6. While doing the
> Hmm - I am a bit surprised, since 0.5 included the same track with
> the same license ;)  Guess we got lucky?

Hm if 0.5 has this too it should have been handled back then. No idea
why it was missed.

>> regular Copyright check I stumbled upon the License.txt in the island
>> track which is pretty much an stopper for any efforts in this regard.
> I am most certainly not a license expert, but the license for those
> textures appear to be quite liberal. What is the problem with them?

Well looking at the terms:

##########
 WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH IMAGE*AFTER IMAGES AND TEXTURES?

    * you CAN modify our images and textures in any way you see fit
    * you CAN use our images and textures in your own work, whether it
be for personal or commercial use
    * you CAN redistribute or sell our images and textures ALTERED OR
UNALTERED as part of printed work (e.g. posters, cd-covers, postcards etc)

WHAT CAN'T YOU DO WITH IMAGE*AFTER IMAGES AND TEXTURES?

    * you CANNOT REDISTRIBUTE our images and textures as part of an
online resource site like our own, i.e. use them to directly compete
with us.
##########

You are not allowed to distribute these files  in any non-printed form.
This means uploading supertuxkart on any publically accesible position
is already against this license.

>>  While I could probably replace some textures (I'll have to do this
>> for the CC < 3 in xr591) replacing all textures for this island
>> track is simply impossible for me.
>
> I can see that (I want to ask what's wrong with cc 2.5, but I guess
> I can find this in some FAQ). On a side note: if you replace the
> textures, could you perhaps send us the modified textures as well?
> While I can't guarantee that we will use them, we will have a look
> at them!

I don't know the details either but the reference seems to be
http://oldpeople.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary

>>  What are your plans concerning this track? Any input for what to do
>> next? Supertuxkart 0.6 is quite nice to play and it would really be
>> sad if I could not make it available trough Debian ;)
>
> Well, we have atm no further plans with this track - meaning it's one
> of the graphically nicer tracks, but I can't see anyone of our
> development team (and we are talking of mostly three people) having
> the time to replace all textures (though of course we are happy to
> receive a patch :)  ). We will discuss this among us admins, but
> honestly I can't promise anything atm.
>
> If STK can not be included in Debian, at least we have by now a
> static linux executable, which the Debian users can download ;)
>
> Or do you see any other option? Perhaps you could post in a Debian
> forum to see if someone volunteers? I am sure that Debian has a
> bigger audience than STK :)

The CCed Freedesktop list may well be the position to get some attention
for this ;)

> Best regards,
>    Joerg