HAL not detecting my HID input devices?

Dirk noisyb at gmx.net
Mon Apr 20 08:25:36 PDT 2009


Simon Thum wrote:
> Dirk wrote:
>> Simon Thum wrote:
>>> Dirk wrote:
>>>> Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Dirk <noisyb at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>> some people are quite happy with only 1 hardware abstraction layer 
>>>>>> (the
>>>>>> kernel)... but now they managed to snuck their crap into distributions
>>>>>> as dependency(!) and i'm frustrated enough about that to make an 
>>>>>> ass of
>>>>>> myself here if it helps in demotivating them.. :)
>>>>> Sure, I feel your pain. Back then it was enough to bring a shoe box
>>>>> full of punchcards, now they've added a monitor and a keyboard as
>>>>> dependencies(!).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's called progress. And while we're at it, HAL will eventually be
>>>>> phased out in favor of udev (merged with DeviceKit). I hope you don't
>>>>> hate udev too (no, static /dev/ is not going to work in the age of
>>>>> dynamic device majors in kernel).
>>> You're essentially wasting your time, but everyone should make his own 
>>> opinion. I think dirk's problem is not as technical as he claims.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.de/search?q=noisyb%40gmx.net
>>>
>> it's called "giving feedback"... it's a kind of social interaction where 
>> you can address technical problems or solutions..
> ""giving feedback"". "social interaction".
> 
> You didn't even bother to try my solution. Maybe because it wasn't your 
> problem? How's that interaction, let alone social? [0]

solution? what are you talking about? the mouse acceleration that can't 
be permanently disabled in linux because xorg developers dont care about 
linux to become relevant for gaming? that was a different mailing list..

>> people not comfortable with it search for my email in google, send me 
>> links to ESR's http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, or 
>> call me a troll...
> Recurring patterns in the technical and social domain -> layer 9 problem
> 
>> what remains is the fact that someone said what many think but don't 
>> care to articulate because, usually, nobody cares to give feedback about 
>> things that suck...
> Nobody cares to check their newly-running linux for all supposedly 
> related mailinglists and send out appraisal. Your implication works as 
> well as your "social interactions".
> 
> If you want to make a difference, learn that 'polite' thing, and grow 
> up. It's not that hard.
> 
> [0] Any questions are meant for you to yourself. I'm not interested in 
> your answer, and I doubt anyone is.
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<3 i want to ask, <3 politely <3, to stop hal development... <3


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