ESC meeting minutes: 2024-02-29 [try 2]

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Feb 29 15:55:40 UTC 2024


[ Re-sending as the list of abandoned patches were so long that we hit
the limit. ]

* Present:
     + Cloph, Olivier, Caolan, Heiko, Ilmari, Michael W, Stephan, Xisco, Regina, Michael S, Sanchu, Eike, Thorsten, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:
     + add “Deprecating Windows 7 and 8/8.1” to the 24.8 release notes (Ilmari)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.6 RC1 in 1 week
     + 24.2.2 RC1 1 week
     + app store versions:
       + 7.6.5 published as an update
     + update checker is now also enabled for 7.5 -> 7.6
     + Windows MAR updater status? (Thorsten)
       + not yet, but should happen next week (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + Housekeeping and update + bug squash (D. Maddern, stragu, ohallot)
        + New pages for new MS functions (ohallot)
        + Scriptforge maintenance (A. Romedenne)
        Q: Does F1 works with toolbars?
            + F1 on Toolbars send a default bookmark (ohallot)
            + did this work in the past?
              + probably not: F1 works on the widget that has the focus (Miklos)
                + hovering over a mouse button doesn't change the focus
              + one can also navigate to the toolbar with F6 (Regina)
                + possibly that works
     Guides
        + Online version for Draw Guide 7.6 (ohallot)
        + updtes in Calc (S. Fanning)
        + Updates in Draw & Impress guides (P. Schofield)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         279(279) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     18(10)   31(9)      52(8)     228(-14)
          commented     35(29)   73(22)    186(29)    901(-3)
           resolved      8(8)    13(8)      22(8)     113(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 44 changes in 1 month, and 63 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 36 changes in 1 month, and 299 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 61 changes in 1 year
           Dan Dascalescu made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 6 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 6 changes in 1 month, and 276 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Juan José González made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         249(249) (topicUI) bugs open, 34(34) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      3(-2)      8(3)     10(3)       23(3)
          commented     60(-30)   235(21)   531(1)     2077(0)
            removed      0(0)       0(0)      2(0)       15(1)
           resolved      8(0)      36(-1)    87(5)      319(0)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 132 changes in 1 month, and 1265 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 56 changes in 1 month, and 284 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 43 changes in 1 month, and 148 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 30 changes in 1 month, and 602 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 21 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 18 changes in 1 month, and 192 changes in 1 year
           Bob Harvey made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 11 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 10 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 8 changes in 1 month, and 172 changes in 1 year
    + Offer to download & install missing fonts from online sources
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159950
      + good to avoid auto-installing fonts from remote sources (Heiko)
    + FILEOPEN When I say "lowriter foo.txt" and foo.txt does not exist,
      it should open a new empty document that saves to that name instead of dying
      + DUP of https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40227
      + makes sense for e.g. vim, but probably not for us (Heiko)
    + Table cells merge: some cells disappear
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159629
      + no cell height, height is taken from row properties (Heiko)
      + would be nice to keep it simple
      + technically it's probably not a bug (Regina)
        + good to solve it by setting the default to a better value (row height)
      + input in the bug is welcome

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 2(-6) import failure, 0(-5) export failures
       - just 2 now
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 3 (+2) coverity issues
       - fixes the new two submitted
     + 6 ossfuzz issues
       - 1 crash (openssl instead of nss configuration)

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.6.3.2    8219(+316)
     + 7.6.4.1    34187(+3182)
     + 7.6.5.2    212(+0)
     + 24.2.0.3    7530(+2385)

     + 7.6.5.2

     - void rtl::str::release<_rtl_uString>(_rtl_uString*)

     - Fixed after 7b46c77366fb3effd2de9bf5ba11ebd3c064974a


     - static bool cppu::idefaultConstructElements(struct _sal_Sequence * *, struct _typelib_TypeDescriptionReference *, long, long, long)

     - Not fixed after 6a0d4247b73d16d7e70ab146aadfbed75721f8bd

     - Fixed in 24.2. Armin's work. Hard to backport


* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Reviewed submissions from the newcomers
  + Finalized and published a blog post on an EasyHack
    + Writer tables converted to plain text – difficultyInteresting EasyHack
    https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/02/29/writer-tables-converted-to-plain-text-difficultyinteresting-easyhack/
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      76(6)      161(22)     165(26)      165(26)
                reviews     464(42)    1486(-28)   3630(116)   12032(44)
                 merged     333(38)    1219(51)    3344(102)   12493(6)
              abandoned      17(7)       54(9)      190(2)       654(4)
            own commits     219(52)     743(35)    2307(44)     9526(-33)
         review commits      81(-17)    303(14)     891(31)     3071(-19)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      53(34)     116(-131)    117(-130)     118(-130)
                reviews     940(142)   3070(190)    7976(256)    30240(54)
                 merged      31(-7)     108(6)       358(10)      1991(-32)
              abandoned     149(138)    182(137)     266(134)      669(134)
            own commits      37(-12)    144(6)       359(27)      1048(-10)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 323(323)
        total 410(410)   assigned 25(25)   open 352(352)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Kurt Nordback made 20 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 12 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 11 patches in 1 month, and 86 patches in 1 year
           Luv Sharma made 7 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 4 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 56 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           vivek javiya made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Devansh Varshney made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Akshay Warrier made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 184 review comments in 1 month, and 1196 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 168 review comments in 1 month, and 1032 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 628 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 1020 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 372 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 620 in 1 year
           Taichi Haradaguchi made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 142 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 472 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 782 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 956 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Ahmed Hamed
           Anish Deshpande
           Po-Yen Huang (OSSII)
           Zeph Chai

* Outreachy (Ilmari)
   + find in the sidebar for Writer: project time extended (5 weeks)
   + qt welding project: official project completed

* GSoC (Ilmari)
     + https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024/organizations/libreoffice
     + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2024
     + till March 18: Potential participants discuss application ideas
     + Code review: who wants to help with beginner patches?
       + maybe find who worked on that area in the recent past and add those people as reviewers? (Miklos)
       + happy to help out (Michael W)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 19 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 219 ok: 204 ko:  13 fail ratio: 5.94% mean_ok:   8 ( 16) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 221 ok: 209 ko:   9 fail ratio: 4.07% mean_ok:   8 ( 16) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 218 ok: 204 ko:  12 fail ratio: 5.50% mean_ok:   8 ( 16) median_ok:   6 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 222 ok: 206 ko:  12 fail ratio: 5.41% mean_ok:   8 ( 16) median_ok:   6 ( 12)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 448 ok: 357 ko:  78 fail ratio: 17.41% mean_ok:  35 ( 43) median_ok:  32 ( 41)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 546 ok: 418 ko: 102 fail ratio: 18.68% mean_ok:  17 ( 22) median_ok:  14 ( 16)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 442 ok: 391 ko:  30 fail ratio: 6.79% mean_ok:  49 ( 51) median_ok:  48 ( 48)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 453 ok: 339 ko:  93 fail ratio: 20.53% mean_ok:  59 (102) median_ok:  48 ( 76)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 565 ok: 284 ko: 229 fail ratio: 40.53% mean_ok: 121 (122) median_ok:  94 ( 94)
gerrit_master              jobs:  61 ok:  30 ko:  25 fail ratio: 40.98% mean_ok:  86 ( 93) median_ok:  71 ( 71)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 511 ok: 258 ko: 206 fail ratio: 40.31% mean_ok: 122 (126) median_ok:  98 ( 98)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240229.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter2                gerrit_windows
       4 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport12                gerrit_windows
       5 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 JunitTest_sw_complex                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 UITest_writer_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      15 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      17 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
      22 CppunitTest_toolkit_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
     + this week was OK in terms of bot failures (Cloph)
     + last week the ML job put ~all changes to the risky category
     + the queue was larger than usual, mostly the PDF import patches
     + hope this settled down now
     + seeing lots of a11y test failures? (Michael W)
       + think the CppunitTest_toolkit_a11y failures are related to a pending change of Noel (Xisco)

           - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163680

           - CI just did its job here, good (Miklos, Cloph)


* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)

         * gtk4: new GtkAtspiSocket API in Gtk 4.14, could potentially be used to

           do own AT-SPI implementation + bridge that to the Gtk widget hierarchy,

           discussion at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/6197#note_2025466

         * qt6: API for reporting a11y object attributes (QAccessibleAttributesInterface)

           merged upstream + implemented in LO

         * new keyboard shortcut for jumping to foot-/endnote, thanks Heiko! (tdf#159863)

         * improvements to Writer Navigator a11y (tdf#159910)

         * some crash fixes

      + still working on importing 3D scenes from MSO (Regina)

         + currently thinking about lighting

         + current ODF is not able to describe these lights from MSO

         + see discussion on the libreoffice@ list, also has input from Armin

     + pdf import improvements (David)
     + cmake find modules for SDK examples (Hossein)
       + Set of patches from Konstantin (WIP)
         https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/162978
       + Similar structure is needed for qmake
       + would this mean duplicated build systems for each example? (Miklos)
         + for each example, the maintenance would be low, hopefully (Hossein)
       + would be the goal to have old/cmake/qmake, 3 parallel build systems? (Miklos)
         + yes, for now (Hossein)
         + the cmake part for each example is small
       + smells like explosion of combinatorics (Stephan)
         + would be careful before going down that road
       + if the end goal is to settle down on cmake, love it (Thorsten)
         + but 3 in the long run is far from ideal.
       + cmake is not that exotic, we require it already for doxygen (Miklos)
         + which makes it supported on CI already (Thorsten)
       + if interested in doing the work + update the docs, then why not, as long as it's a single build system (Stephan)
         + but then do avoid qmake, and do switch over from gmake at the end
         + avoids the exploson
     + Excel 2021 functions (Balazs Varga)
       + XLOOKUP, XMATCH, FILTER etc
       + also ironically some functions came from google sheets originally,
         then -> excel -> Calc
       + Help pages ready to be filled (ohallot).
       + we also try to submit suitable ODF TC enhancement requests (Thorsten)
       + parallel computation has some special-cases for LOOKUP (Caolan)
         + keep that in mind for XLOOKUP

* COOL Days 2024 (Miklos)
   + https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cool-days-2024/  8th -> 10th April
   + contributors can submit 5 mins talk proposals at https://eventyay.com/e/0512424d/cfs
   + LibreOffice Technology hackfest as part of it

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1132 (+12)
         + enhancements: 272  (+7)
         + needsUXEval: 5 (+3)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 44 (-1)
         + documentation:  7 (-3)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
          None
      Old:
         + Crash at undo of RTF Paste
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159385
             + bisected to Tomaz
      Fixed:
         + LibreOffice 7.6 stalls/crashes under Windows 11 with Norwegian locale when opening file dialog
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157135
               + 74 comments :) (Miklos)
             + Fixed. Thanks to Mike Kaganski


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Function COUNTIFS empty cells are counted up to the nearest filled one, EDITING
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159544
             + bisected to Lubos

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + Interesting consolidated reports:
        * Mouse-hold preview differs from result when changing a connector via dragging: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130937
        * Animation triggered by object click resets at the end: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133002
     + Dashboard data updated: https://stragu.shinyapps.io/lo_qa_dashboard/
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +123  -26 (-108) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       13
        Buovjaga                9
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 8
        Olivier Hallot          7
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Mike Kaganski           5
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Julien Nabet            4
        Justin L                4
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 10
        Rafael Lima             6
        Regina Henschel         5
        lvm                     4
        Olivier Hallot          3
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 3
        Alvaro Segura           2
        Justin L                2
        Kuba Orlik              2
        Mike Kaganski           2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Olivier Hallot          6
        Justin Luth             4
        Nabet, Julien           4
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Attila Szűcs            2
        Jim Raykowski           2
        Kelemen, Gabor          2
        Michael Stahl           2
        Patrick Luby            2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        21
        Nabet, Julien           9
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    6
        Xisco Fauli             6
        Ady                     5
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      5
        *UNKNOWN*               3
        Bielefeld, Rainer       3
        Kaganski, Mike          3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Kevin Suo              5
         Raal                   4
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Michael Stahl          1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   4
         Michael Warner         3
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Aron Budea             2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Kelemen, Gabor         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1255(-3) bugs open of 13216(+16) total 22(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       5
         Raal                   3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Ady                    1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Michael Warner         1
         Michael Stahl          1
         OfficeUser             1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 14(-1)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+1)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      Printing and PDF export - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(-1)
      Linux         - 6(+1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 452(-3)
      Calc                     - 231(+1)
      Impress                  - 125(-3)
      LibreOffice              - 54(-2)
      Crashes                  - 51(-1)
      Draw                     - 51(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Base                     - 38(+0)
      Borders                  - 36(+1)
      UI                       - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 34(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 26(+0)
      Chart                    - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      filters and storage      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+1)
      Formula Editor           - 7(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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