minutes of ESC call ...

[Michael Meeks]

* Present:
	+ Norbert, Eike, Stephan, David, Bjoern, Caolan, Rainer
	  Andras, Markus, Fridrich, Michael, Thorsten, Cedric,
	  Petr, Michael S, Kohei

* Completed Action Items
	+ dig out more Windows 3.5.0 installation bugs (Rainer)
		+ interacting / pending configmgr fix in 3.5.1
		+ somewhat overrated problem
	+ adopt the new bug state / meanings proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)
		+ it is working now.
	+ please send Michael nominations for new ESC members for proposal
	  & vote next week (All)

* Pending Action Items
	+ [no progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
		+ accelerate external movement of Linux build hardware (Kendy)
	+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
	+ [ongoing] respond in the gerrit bug fdo#44498 with some rational (Bjoern)
		+ call today on the topic

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.4.6
		+ deadline slipped one day March 6th RC1 deadline
	+ 3.5.1 release bits / status
		+ RC1 was out Wednesday, want a weekend for QA to test
			+ tag for RC2 on Monday 5th
		+ stick with a 3 week cycle for 3.5.2 to catch up
	+ slightly nervous about volume of fixing in 3.5.1 RC2
		+ lots of good bug fixes going in there
	+ libxml status (M.Stahl heroism appreciated)
		+ go back to system libxml on Mac, PPC looks much better

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ we have one week (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
		+ Michael S. again creating them
	+ filed application on Google / Melange
		+ Cedric / Fridrich co-administrators
		+ happy to have more admins etc.
	+ drastic action / brainstorming on ideas required
	  Add these tasks to the wiki
AA:		+ add graphical conditional formatting task (Kohei)
AA:		+ Publisher importer + one other (Fridrich)
AA:		+ wrapper for MS compiler for autotools usage (Norbert)
AA:		+ layout / toolkit conversion task (Caolan)
AA:		+ calc filters performance improvements (Kohei & Markus)
AA:		+ l/strace-alike for UNO (Stephan)
AA:		+ table styles (Cedric)
AA:		+ bunch of ideas / slide-show re-work etc. (Thorsten)
AA:		+ refactor god objects (Bjoern)
AA:		+ multi-user / telepathy / co-editing (Eike)
AA:			+ fwd. Eike Svante's proposal (Thorsen)
AA:		+ better template translation (Michael)
AA:		+ add specific writer / layout unit test task (Cedric / Michael S.)

* ESC composition
	+ Nominations:
		+ Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual)
		+ Markus Mohrhard (Individual)
		+ Stephan Bergmann (RedHat)
	+ no objections whatsoever => adopted
AA:	+ take to the board (Thorsten)

* un-realistic attitude wrt. exceptions and bloat ... (Sberg)
	+ punt to next time ...

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ nothing to report - business as usual

* Pretty pictures of bug trends ...
	+ consensus that writer has very few unit tests
		+ and the largest need for them
		+ added macros test for writer (Markus)
			+ can also test layout code
		+ Miklos started to write RTF test cases
		+ anything that stops people writing unit tests ?
			+ Cedric / Michael blocked huge bug stack to fix
	+ random writer regression samples, many from 3.3 to 3.4 (Bjoern)
		+ the historic big merge issue ? / quality of what was merged ?
		+ yet few remembered here ...
	+ regressions - lots of RTF / DOCX filter related bugs
		+ new / immature / but much improved code there
		+ again potential / fixed duplicate / merge issues
	+ writer fundamentally harder to test than calc
		+ layout dumping of XML to plain text
			+ built-in / hidden export filter
			+ good to run across lots of files
		+ lots of regression cases related to layout
			+ so export to text is not enough
	+ SUSE interns currently working on 'real' unit tests for writer.

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 52 (of 145) open last weeks: 49/140, 44/132, 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
	        36%                     35%,    33%,    33%,    30%,    30%,   28%,   32%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 109(+6) bugs open of 359(+16) total

	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 47 (+4)
	+ Drawing      - 10 (+0)
	+ LibreOffice  - 10 (+0)
	+ Presentation - 10 (+1)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 7  (-3)
	+ Database     - 6  (+1)
	+ Basic        - 3  (+0)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

* Graph attached ...

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michael.meeks at suse.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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