[Openfontlibrary] exljbris

Ed Trager ed.trager at gmail.com
Fri Jan 26 17:38:08 PST 2007


Just my 2 cents : I agree with Gustavo's reply to Dave 100%.

Honestly, a designer / author can do whatever they want.  Authors of
any kind of intellectual property (such as software or fonts) have a
wide spectrum of options available. They can make it as completely
free (libre), free (no-cost), open and modifiable as they want.  Or
they can make it as completely non-libre, costly, closed, and
non-modifiable as they want.

And they can do anything in between.  In many cases, neither one of
the two extremes is the best answer, and that's where something in the
middle might be a better answer for some people and some specific set
of circumstances.

Those of us in the FLOSS software and FLOSS font communities will
surely do best to recognize the plurality in the enterprises in which
we are engaged, and the fact that it can be very beneficial to work
with people of all stripes and circumstances.

In addition, I would argue that our communities will benefit when
members have a wide understanding of various economic and business
models -- and the kinds of changes and impact that the FLOSS movement
is having on traditional economic and business models.  FLOSS is now
becoming quite mainstream, even for very traditional businesses.  It
is now widely accepted that FLOSS has a role to play in any business
that wishes to pursue a set of "best practices".  But FLOSS is not the
only game in town.   Rather, it is becoming integrated into the larger
ecosystem of how people do business -- and many aspects of traditional
business models and traditional views regarding intellectual property
and copyright still have their rightful place.


On 1/26/07, Gustavo Ferreira <grilo at centroin.com.br> wrote:
> this is old, but i would like to make some comments:
>
> > Here's the non-free license information for these fonts. They are
> > very nice though! :-)
> >
> > > Font license information
> > > This font is free for personal and commercial use
> >
> > Awesome!
> >
> > > This font may not be modified
> >
> > Not so awesome :-(
>
> why not?
>
> i think this is a fair deal: the type-designer is letting you use his fonts for free, and he asks for your
> feedback so he can continue improving the font.
>
> > > This font may not be distributed -not online nor on any
> > > media- without my permission
> >
> > Not so awesome :-(
>
> why not?
>
> the type-designer gets public attention in exchange for letting everybody use his fonts without
> paying.
>
> note that he is not saying 'fonts may not be distributed' - he just wants to be able to have some
> control on that.
>
> i think this is fair.
>
> > > This font may not be sold
> >
> > Not so awesome :-(
>
> why not?!
>
> this guy has put a lot of effort in studying type-design, making these fonts and the website. why
> should others make profit from his hard work?
>
> sorry dave, but i think your comments just show a lack of comprehension for the designer's point of
> view...
>
> best,
> - gustavo.
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Dave Crossland" <dave at lab6.com>
> To: openfontlibrary at lists.freedesktop.org
> Sent: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:06:22 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] exljbris
>
> > Hi Gustavo!
> >
> > On 19/01/07, Gustavo Ferreira <grilo at centroin.com.br> wrote:
> > > http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/
> >
> > Thanks for this - I've added it to the list of quality freeware fonts
> > at http://www.openfontlibrary.org/wiki/index.php/Existing_Free_Fonts
> > - I hope to ask the owners of these fonts to consider using the OFL when
> > the OFLB is functional and more attractive.
> >
> > Here's the non-free license information for these fonts. They are
> > very nice though! :-)
> >
> > > > Font license information
> > > >
> > > > [UTF-8?]• This font is free for personal and commercial use
> >
> > Awesome!
> >
> > > > [UTF-8?]• This font may not be modified
> >
> > Not so awesome :-(
> >
> > > > [UTF-8?]• This font may not be distributed -not online nor on any
> > > >   media- without my permission
> >
> > Not so awesome :-(
> >
> > > > [UTF-8?]• This font may not be sold
> >
> > Not so awesome :-(
> >
> > > > [UTF-8?]• This font is the intellecual property of Jos Buivenga
> >
> > "Intellectual Property" is so vague that its meaningless.
> >
> > > > [UTF-8?]• Exljbris (Jos Buivenga) is not liable for any damage resulting from the use of this
> font
> >
> > Awesome!
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> ------- End of Original Message -------
> ------- End of Forwarded Message -------
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