[Openicc] ISO - Open vs. Free (was Linux CM ideology)

[Chris Lilley]

On Friday, February 11, 2011, 8:25:46 PM, Leonard wrote:

LR> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Chris Lilley <chris at w3.org> wrote:
 LR>> On the other hand, groups such as the ICC and the W3C CHARGE for
 LR>> membership (so that only those that can pay, can play) BUT their results are freely downloadable.
LR>  
LR>  Small correction - W3C charges for Membership, yes.
LR>  
LR>  Comments are solicited and accepted from the Public at all
LR> stages of standard development. without charge (your comment
LR> seemsd to indicate that all participation at W3C was subject to a
LR> charge which, as you well know, is not correct).

LR> True, but only members get a vote.  So you can comment, but you have no actual say...

Leonard (and sorry to everyone else for the further digression), that simply isn't true.

a) AC review is a review, not a 'vote'

b) Last Call review is a technical review, and anyone with the technical competence to do so can make their point, be heard, and influence the decision. Further, if the Working group rejects their input without what they consider due cause, they can file a formal objection which goes all the way up to the Director of W3C.

"No actual say" is thus, far from the truth.

Also,some W3C specs go on to become ISO specs (e.g. PNG) and recently W3C was accredited as a PAS submitter to ISO so there will be more.

Sorry again for the interjection.

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 Chris Lilley   Technical Director, Interaction Domain                 
 W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
 Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
 Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups