[Openicc] [Fwd: icm profiles in debian]

Sat Feb 2 10:33:09 PST 2013

Re my previous recommendation, note that one cannot according to the
license rename the file, because renaming it would require changing the
'desc' tag internally in the file to reflect the file name.
And anyway changing the file name would be bad karma later because it is
preferable that people know what the file contents are ...

Edmund

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:25 PM, edmund ronald <edmundronald at gmail.com>wrote:

> Off the top of my head, I would think that the ICC is the right place to
> go for ICC color profiles (!) and indeed
>
> http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter
>
> shows us some profiles, and acceptable free license conditions.  I would
>  recommend  the file *sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_no black_scaling.icc
> *
>
> Edmund
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello Bernhard and bug hunters,
>>
>> there are different aspects for ICC profiles to work like expected.
>>
>> The most important thing, beside your/debian's requirement for proper
>> licensing, is its correct colorimetry. That can be expected to be right for
>> the icc-profiles-free included sRGB.icc from lcms and the same from
>> ArgyllCMS called sRGB.icm. For instance the packages in question could
>> require icc-profiles-free and a sRGB.icc profile gets installed on the
>> system. Having only one sRGB profile installed is from a usability point of
>> view very plausible. So requiring icc-profiles-free appears a logical
>> option.
>>
>> The next is, applications need to identify the profile. Some applications
>> search profiles by name. However, it is no good idea to reuse the "sRGB
>> Color Space Profile.icm" name of the original HP profile, as that will
>> cause confusion among users. But you might consider to replace the
>> offending sRGB.icm with the sRGB.icm from the Argyll package.
>>
>> The old profile names need to be replaced by the new name in
>> configuration files, source code and documentation. grep is your friend.
>> Ideally the unit tests of the packages in question can spot issues.
>>
>>
>> As you asked about, a Scarse sRGB profile variant has colorimetrically
>> some errors. That might be fixed in newer versions. I do not know.
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/**archives/openicc/2011q4/**004425.html<http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/openicc/2011q4/004425.html>
>>
>> An newer review about sRGB profiles is here:
>> http://ninedegreesbelow.com/**photography/srgb-profile-**comparison.html<http://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/srgb-profile-comparison.html>
>>
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
>>
>>
>> Am 02.02.2013 16:51, schrieb Bernhard Reiter:
>>
>>  Forwarding this to the OpenICC maling list requesting their help as per
>>> suggestion of user oy (Kai-Uwe Behrmann) in #scribus.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Bernhard Reiter
>>> PS: Please CC me (and the people I'm CC'ing) as I'm not subscribed to
>>> this list!
>>>
>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>
>>>> Von: Stuart Prescott <stuart at debian.org>
>>>> An: Oleksandr Moskalenko <malex at debian.org>, Jonas Smedegaard
>>>> <dr at jones.dk>, Bernhard Reiter <ockham at raz.or.at>
>>>> Betreff: icm profiles in debian
>>>> Datum: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 00:58:58 +0000
>>>>
>>>> Dear icc-profiles-free maintainers,
>>>>
>>>> You may or may not have noticed a series of bugs filed about the
>>>> inclusion of
>>>> sRGB.icm from HP in a variety of different packages. Modified versions
>>>> of this
>>>> file are not distributable so inclusion in packages fails DFSG #3. We
>>>> now have
>>>> bugs #657281, #699301, #699304, #699305 and #699306 for packages that
>>>> include this file.
>>>>
>>>> While trying to understand what can be done to solve this problem, I
>>>> realised
>>>> that a number of other packages also contained ICC/ICM profiles (e.g.
>>>> krita,
>>>> argyll, lcms, icc-profiles-free etc) and that there was a chance that
>>>> one of
>>>> these Free profiles would be suitable as an immediate replacement for
>>>> the
>>>> problematic profile currently in Debian. (I also wondered if these
>>>> package
>>>> should be using icc-profiles rather than shipping their own versions,
>>>> but
>>>> that's another question for another day.)
>>>>
>>>> At this stage, however, I reach my limit of knowledge about colour
>>>> profiles and
>>>> hope that perhaps one of you would be able to provide advice on the
>>>> abovementioned bugs. Can one of the other sRGB.icm in Debian that
>>>> claims to
>>>> come from lcms or scarse and be under a permissive licence be used as a
>>>> drop-
>>>> in replacement for this file? Can the icc file from icc-profiles-free be
>>>> utilised? If this can be done, then we potentially have a nice solution
>>>> to 5
>>>> RC bugs...
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> Stuart
>>>>
>>>> --
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