Notification spec issue: Ability to assign an icon *and* an image to a notification
chipx86 at chipx86.com
Fri Jun 26 03:37:46 PDT 2009
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Julien Danjou <julien at danjou.info> wrote:
> At 1246007841 time_t, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > i agree. that's why i started a git repo and working out the details. i
> > communicated that a few times on this mailing list over the past few
> months as
> > well. you can find a link to the git repo both earlier in this thread as
> > as at the end of this email..
> > there are 5 personal repository clones of it on gitorious.org at this
> The thing is that starting to spread things over the internet on
> gitorious, github, git.whatever is really a PITA for people trying to
> implement spec (as me) to find where they're all. That's why I prefer to
> use a centralized service so I know that « it's on fd.o, of course. ».
> For the record, even if it's a little topic, I had no idea until I read
> this thread why the notification specs where hosted on Galago. So I've
> started to implement this, believing it was a Freedesktop standard (i.e.,
> one that was a consensus between all majors desktops), and now I
> realize that I got fooled.
It originally was hosted on freedesktop.org. A drive failure caused us to
lose our repository and I believe much of our bug tracker, or something.
It's been a while.. but that's why it's hosted off-site. I didn't trust
freedesktop.org to host it after losing all that data.
So I know there's been a lot of negative opinions about the Galago project
and our handling of the spec, but I want to state for the record that at the
time, there was no attempt at a cross-desktop notification standard that
went anywhere, and we did try hard to provide one that people were mostly in
agreement with. You can never satisfy everyone, but we did incorporate what
we could that people were asking for, tried to work with people, and had
buy-in from most. There was no official spec approval process at the time at
freedesktop.org, but we did make a real attempt here. Given how many distros
shipped it, how many apps used it and how many implementations were out
there, I was under the opinion that we did some good here, but perhaps not.
So I'm sorry to everyone who's pissed at us for "screwing everyone over" as
I believe someone else in this thread put it. Be sure that our intent was
not to screw anyone over but to provide a good standard that could work as a
basis for notifications. Sure, it's not perfect, but show me any spec that
got everything right the first time. When we wrote this, there was little to
base this on and really this is the first time in many years that I've seen
*anybody* complain about this. Maybe people were upset and didn't tell me,
which is a shame because I would have been glad to work with people to do
things about this. However, the way this discussion has gone, and with the
interesting view of the history of our project, I've really lost all desire
to continue any work on notifications. So I wish everyone the best of luck
in coming up with a new spec that 100% satisfies everybody involved.
Christian Hammond - chipx86 at chipx86.com
Review Board - http://www.review-board.org
VMware, Inc. - http://www.vmware.com
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