[Clipart] Community Building
chovynz at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 16:00:37 PDT 2010
(Semi-ranbling ramblings thoughts on the requests issue)
I have another take on it.
Why not have OCAL focus on vector works, and leave the uploading of raster
images to the free image hosts . e.g. photobucketimageshack.
Instead of having people upload images to OCAL they can link to those other
places. Unless bandwidth really isn't a problem?
I'm just remembering the previous "requests" area/tags, which didn't seem
effective in the timeframes. Maybe it's time for a re-think on how requests
will work? I know many requesters never cleaned up their requests - it was
quite a labourious task for librarians too. The questions were, "What's
current? Oh is this finished? is this old? What's new? What's actually
needed? Oh I see this was fulfilled 2 years ago!! " etcetc.
I'd like to see an easier way of doing requests than the last manifestation.
Michi and I suggested a forum, but Jon doesn't support that due to security
issues. Would Jon reconsider that aspect?
*Thought # 89384*
Personally, I think the requests feature CAN make people dependent instead
of figuring out how to use the programs and solve their own problems. I
think I don't like the request system as is currently manifest, but I can't
yet articulate WHY I don't like it.
What else would work for requests? Part of the problem from last time was a
lack of communication.
I guess a "Fulfill Request" button that works like the current "remix"
button would be cool. Something like,
*Case study #1*
Requester Person A asks for some balloons, and uploads a picture.
Designer Person B goes, "Oh yeah! I can do that!" Goes and makes the art.
Clicks the "Fulfill Request" button and uploads the artwork.
The Requester gets notified via email, AND, next time they log in, a screen
notification is also there saying "Designer Person B has fulfilled your
request. Please visit http://xyz to view the clipart."
The Requester goes there and sees another message, "Does this clipart answer
your request? Are you happy with the result? "
They click "Yes, it's awesome!",or "No, not yet"
If they click Yes, The Request automatically gets the request tag removed,
The Designer gets notified (Via email AND/OR login message) that the
Requester is happy with the result and everyones happy.
if they click No, then the request stays as is until it's accepted. The
Requester will be reminded periodically to check if the request has been
*Case Study #1b*
Other contributors / Librarians / The AUTO OCAL SYSTEM can suggest clipart
based on the word balloon. If The Requester chooses a clipart that fulfills
the request, the request gets it's "request" tag automatically removed.
Of course search would need to automatically NOT INCLUDE requests in the
search results. If we could have a toggle system for fields to search in
that would be awesome.
This is all just theoretical of course. I don't know what Bassel is capable
of. ;) Whatchyah think Bassel? Are these ideas possible, feasible and
On 27/04/2010 5:51 a.m., Jon Phillips wrote:
I totally agree with you. I think the REQUEST page is really great.
Allow anyone to upload sketches, urls and descriptions for a request.
I think its important to link the request to uploaded images.
This is also a great way for artists to make money...maybe longer term...
Bassel, what do you think about this?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Gerald Ganson
<Gerald.Ganson at rdc.ab.ca> <Gerald.Ganson at rdc.ab.ca> wrote:
A comment on building the community.
Rather than (or in addition to) a “requests” page, I feel that a page where
artists (non vector) could upload scans of illustrations, etc, and have OCAL
vector artists use these illustrations as jump off points for creating
vectors could build community. Bitmapped images uploaded would of course NOT
become part of the collection, but vectors created from them would be.
Perhaps leveraging existing locations would be good, like start a collection
on wiki-commons or someplace, linked to OCAL – and specifically for OCAL
contributions by non-vector artists. Credit to original artists (for the
vector remixes) given etc.
If the page started with a bit of description as to what kind of art can be
vectorized effectively, guidelines, etc. I think it could be useful.
In this way people could contribute to OCAL who may be great artists, but
not vector artists.
Here is an example so to speak. This was uploaded to illustrate how pencil
sketches can become vector art.
From: clipart-bounces+gerald.ganson=rdc.ab.ca at lists.freedesktop.org
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Behalf Of Oleg Koptev
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Cc: Open Clip Art Library PUBLIC
Subject: Re: [Clipart] 30K! and ready to launch!!!
I think focus should shift towards building a community and finding out how
the OCAL collection can be of most use to people around the world.
The one of possible ways proposed by reJon in another thread (about package
size) is 'packs' of clipart. I think it is really useful proposal. The
'Request' feature also could have great impact on popularity, but as we saw
on the OCAL v.1.0 that 'Request' area can became trashbin without strong
my 2 kopeck
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