[Clipart] clipart Digest, Vol 60, Issue 52

John Olsen johnny_automatic at mac.com
Fri Mar 27 16:26:13 PDT 2009

I'd be more inclined to upload under the "house Account" of Anonymous  
and credit the original name under the artist field


On Mar 27, 2009, at 4:12 PM, chovynz wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 4:12 AM, John Olsen  
> <johnny_automatic at mac.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:57 PM, clipart-request at lists.freedesktop.org
> wrote:
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:22:40 +1300
> > From: chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Clipart] Importing other peoples artwork?
> > To: Open Clip Art Library list <clipart at lists.freedesktop.org>
> > Message-ID:
> >       <9fc7fe2a0903262022o2cee4c50g87561a76e5f21a1d at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > On the Roadmap (wiki <http://openclipart.org/wiki/Roadmap>), part of
> > the
> > goals are to import all images from the archives.
> > Would it be ok for someone else (me) to take one of the folders at a
> > time
> > and import them into OCAL? Does this put them into the ccHost
> > automatically
> > or would you like me to "hands off" there?
> >
> > *"We are tracking the transfer of files from the old archive to the
> > new OCAL
> > site on this page:
> > http://openclipart.org/wiki/authorlist - please strike through your
> > name
> > when you have uploaded your files to the current site. "*
> >
> > For example would it be ok for me to cross off one or more of
> > authors as I
> > complete uploading their stuff?
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> I initiated this project, so here's a little background.  I sorted all
> the files in the past collections and removed crap files and
> duplicates.  Then I re-organized them into folders by submitter name.
> We talked about a bulk upload of the old stuff but no one came up with
> a feasible method of moving them all while retaining the original
> connections to their submitters.  I guess the underlying architecture
> is too different.  If you import them they will be imported under your
> name instead of that of the original submitter.  Some of these
> submitters already have accounts on the new OCAL but have not, for
> whatever reason uploaded their old art to the new site.  Also it is
> hard to determine WHO these submitters are.  Some have used multiple
> accounts over the years, some are untraceable.
> I uploaded all the singletons awhile ago under anonymous - thinking
> that a submitter who only submitted one file for years was not active
> and we could take the chance.  We didn't think setting up dummy
> accounts for all these people and then uploading them to each one was
> a good idea.  That would have been over 300 accounts with one entry
> that wold have to be set up with passwords remembered, etc.
> Turns out 2 of those 388 people have now requested that their files
> appear under their names, but neither has followed my simple
> instructions to make that happen.  So it seems maintaining and running
> these blind accounts for a slew of people would be a nightmare.
> Up until now, we have relied on the many hands make light work" notion
> and hoped all the past submitters would move their own stuff.  You can
> see from the list and how many stikeouts there are, that it hasn't
> been wholly successful.   There is somewhere around 200 names there
> (not counting the singletons) and 7 have finished moving their files
> over.
> We'd love to find a solution here, but haven't heard any good ideas
> yet.  What do you think?
> Johnny
> Well I have a few ideas. I don't know if it'll work, but it's worth  
> bringing up the discussion if we can find something that does work.  
> The important thing is getting the clipart in there.
> Idea #1. Manual upload under mine or other people's names.
> If the original authors want their works (which are already  
> submitted under PD), to be under their name, then the onus is on  
> them to follow the procedure, OR get in contact with whoever  
> uploaded the clipart. As you said we don't know if they are active,  
> and few of them have responded to any communications you guys have  
> already done.  I have no problem uploading them under my name,  
> naming the original author, and informing them of the new process  
> when they contact me or leave a review. At least then we'll have the  
> working name. Then they can upload under their name, let me know  
> they've uploaded and I can delete my copy.
> I'm not interested in having my name to clipart that is in the PD,  
> that I didnt do. So I have no problem uploading, then deleteing when  
> the real author squeals and uploads it for himself.
> Idea #2. Manual or batch upload with ccHost database details change.
> I don't know how ccHost works but I'm presuming it's some sort of  
> database? If it is anything like MYSQL, then I also presume that a  
> database Administrator could change the name of an entry to the  
> appropriate name. For example:
> 1 chovynz Pineapple.svg Hi_Res_Image Pineapple.png 20090622
> Case Use 1. Let's say Pineapple.svg is Jon Phillips original artwork  
> from this list of clipart whos authors have disappeared. chovynz  
> uploads the file, because it's worthwhile having as many clipart in  
> OCAL as possible. Jon Phillips sees it one day, registers and lets  
> chovynz or one of the admins know and says "This is my original  
> artwork I'd like it under my own name. Thanks!"  Chovynz or one of  
> the admins email one of the ccHost admins for OCAL and let them know  
> who the original author of *this_filename* is, and can they please  
> change it.
> Case Use 2. We find a way to batch upload. The author of 40 images  
> come and register. They let us know that *these* images are "theirs".
> End result 1 & 2
> The ccHost admins change the name of  the UPLOADER field to the  
> relevant author.
> Clarifications: "letting us know" could be a list on the wiki of  
> clipart that have what the FILENAME UPLOADER needs to changing from  
> and to. The purplse of this list is that the admins do when they  
> can, rather than being pressured by someone saying "I want this  
> under my name for the Nth time!" or "Hurry up!" etc.
> Idea #3. Again I dont know ccHost so i dont know if this is possbile.
> Filename and directory structure text extractions. On second thought  
> if the person doesnt have a username exactly as in the stuctures,  
> that wont work. Nevermind. Ignore this one.
> It seems that even if the Authors come forward, someone has to do it  
> manually. Again I dont mind doing it myself and just waiting until  
> they get in contact. Perhaps we could have an automated "I'm the  
> original author!" button on a specific clipart category or tag? This  
> button would send a report or email to an admin stating filename,  
> uploader, and reportee. Then the admins could come to an agreement  
> on if they want to change it?
> I dont really know enough about how ccHost works to come up with  
> solutions at the moment

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