[Clipart] I hope you have backups.

chovynz chovynz at gmail.com
Sat Feb 5 09:51:44 PST 2011

I don't think you can do any worse that what happened yesterday. :)

For the most part, I'd suggest you relax about not comfortable about working
on a live site. That's one of the reasons why I put the "chovynz is
working!" sign up, to make people aware that weird things could happen.

I do understand the thinking though, which is why it's taken me this long to
get to where I am with coding OCAL. However, now that I've done editing ON
the live site for awhile, I now think that a test site is a waste of time. I
mean we already had a BETA site with so much more features and fixed bugs on
it, then when this one came through I was disappointed to see most of the
changes was lost.

You have good thoughts, though. All I'm doing is commenting on the idea. I'm
against having a test site, and just want other devs to just jump in on the
live site. If my opinion weighs anything, my vote is against, but i don't
want the discussion to stop. Ultimately the choice is Jon's/server owners.

Convince him either way.

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:54 AM, J. Alves <alvesjmp at gmail.com> wrote:

> By the way, I was wondering about that these days. Maybe this has been
> discussed before and I missed it, in which case I apologize for the
> repetition... Just let me know and I return to under me bridge. :-)
> I am thinking of trying to learn Aiki, php and all that to be able to
> help with the code side of things. But I would never feel comfortable
> touching the live site even after I'm fluent in those technologies,
> let alone during the learning process, so I was hoping there was a
> parallel code or site for this type of activity. You know, a sort of
> private mirror of OpenClipart's code (not necessary to have the full
> database, although that would be nice too) where people would develop
> and tweak without worry that the main site was getting screwed up (as
> its looks were when I looked 5 min ago, for example). Then, when we
> were confident that the modifications are working and nothing is
> getting damaged in the DB by our actions, then it would be time to
> patch the old code with the new stuff. That's what I do with my little
> web apps that are not important and don't have any traffic beyond two
> or three labs and not 1,000s of visitors a day like OCAL. Is anything
> like that in place for OCAL? I suspect not. The next best alternative
> of having a working development branch of the site would be to give
> people the full code for installing at their home server so they can
> work on it there (is that available? I'd like that). Then they would
> send the modifications either to the main site or to a (few) central
> person(s) who'd integrate the code with the live site every once in a
> while.
> Imagine for example if I try to solve the tags problem or try to
> implement the "idea mill" I registered in the blueprints (is that the
> place for ideas of new features?) or whatever, and in the process ALL
> tags for ALL cliparts get mangled to something unexpected and useless.
> That would be a huge disaster and I'd have to hide from librarians for
> the rest of my life. :-) OK, I suppose there are backups, but still a
> pain in the proverbial.
> Cheers
> J
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Bassel Safadi <bassel.safadi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > it seems a server side problem, I emailed osuosl about, hope to get it
> back
> > soon
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:43 AM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> To Jon or Bassel
> >>
> >> I hope you have backups.
> >> I'm tired of the interlinked problems.
> >>
> >> The only thing I did was change one value in the css.
> >> div.r-img-i {width:110px;}
> >>   to
> >> div.r-img-i {width:100px;}
> >>
> >> And the whole site crashed. This after successfully already unwinding
> much
> >> of the css spagehtti code. Fucking stupid.
> >> Now, I can't login to admin, and no-one can see the site. Nothing I can
> do
> >> from my end. Someone with ssh access is going to have to fix whatever
> went
> >> wrong.
> >>
> >> I was editing the "main" widget css at the time. I hope you've got a log
> >> file of what happened, because I'm sure I did nothing that would cause
> this,
> >> since I was only playing with the layouts of the cliparts that were
> >> displayed on the main page to get them to fit better. If i did do
> something,
> >> then I need to know what it was, so that I can avoid that in the future.
> >>
> >> I'm going to take a break. sheesh.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Chovynz
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://bassel.ws
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> >
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