[compiz] Looking for input

[Tuukka Hastrup]

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, imnotpc wrote:
> You did a good job summarizing the opinions that had been expressed in 
> the thread I referenced. I do need to point out, however, that you 
> attribute all the points in your summary to me. Some of these were my 
> points, and I agree with some of the others, but I don't want those who 
> haven't read the thread to get the impression I was giving a monolog or 
> that we all agreed.

My apologies for making it sound it was personal about you. With "you" I 
actually wanted to refer to the forum thread that far :-)

Long story short, I think it's good that there are people who are 
interested in and ready to work on presenting Compiz to potential users in 
an appropriately graphical web site, as long as there's still a 
functioning place for collaboratively maintained documentation.

> > 2. You think wiki markup is more difficult than HTML.
> >
> > I can't see how. Of course you need to learn it if you have to know all
> > the tricks, but the learning curve is gentler for writers and editors.
> > There isn't a lot of content pouring in at the moment, would that change
> > with HTML?
> 
> Why should a writer or editor need to know either? With the Joomla editor you 
> write in plain English (or whatever language you wish) and change styles and 
> headings by selecting the new style from the icons or dropdown menus. 
> Exponent has replaceable editing modules with different features. I don't 
> know about any others.

If I'm to write documentation, I prefer wiki over plain text over html 
over wysiwyg over web-wysiwyg, but it's all code to me anyway. It must be 
that I'm looking forward just to the content and am not paying attention 
to formatting and graphics.

> > I personally would think that we don't need a CMS, because a wiki is a CMS
> > and more.
> 
> Tuukka, I have to disagree with you here. A wiki is a specialized subset of 
> CMS, not the other way around. The type of CMS I prefer is designed 
> specifically to be the primary website management tool. You certainly can use 
> MediaWiki to manage your site (as we are doing). It's just that there are 
> other tools that are better suited for the job. 

We must be comparing apples to oranges, web design to collaborative 
writing :-) You see the first one as a priority, I see the latter. It 
might be that some CMS provides all the wiki features like MediaWiki but I 
doubt it.

The good thing in putting everything in the wiki is that there's just one 
system, it's uniform and everything is maintainable. I'd hope you can make 
the web design so that the CMS and its content appear as a thin shell 
around the wiki, they look uniform and it's easy to navigate between them. 
In case this proves unpractical, it's of course possible to make the CMS 
and the wiki separate, targetting as little overlap as possible (eg. user 
vs. developer content).


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