[compiz] compiz Digest, Vol 42, Issue 3
Jupiter
jupiter2k5 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 13:40:34 PDT 2009
I see no problem with your nvidia temps But, i have seen
this exact behavior when 'indirect rendering' is enabled.
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> 1. 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 (David C. Rankin)
> 2. Re: 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 (Sam Spilsbury)
> 3. Re: 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0 (David C. Rankin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:33:14 -0500
> From: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com>
> Subject: [compiz] 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0
> To: compiz at lists.freedesktop.org
> Message-ID: <200908181433.14572.drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com>
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>
> Listmates,
>
> I installed 8.2 on opensuse 10.3 from the opensuse XGL repository to
> replace
> 7.6. Compiz works with the nvidia 8600 GT card (512M of GDDR3) on the box,
> but
> the ctrl+alt <- -> switching behavior is really bad.
>
> In 7.6, the ctrl+alt <- -> desktop switching changed desktops
> crisply with
> just the slightest hint of the cube detected during the very short and nice
> switch.
>
> In 8.2, the cube hangs fully visible on the desktop for a 1/2 msec
> or so
> before settling into the full screen view of the selected desktop. I have
> adjusted all the timings and zooms individually and cannot hit upon a
> workable
> switch like with 7.6. (the defaults worked fine on 7.6)
>
> Additionally, in 7.6 you could basically "spin" the cube with
> ctrl+alt <- ->
> and the spin was smooth and looked perfect. (guessing 1 side each 1/100 of
> a
> second) In 8.2, there is no "spin" just a "ka-chunk" "ka-chunk" as the cube
> rotates very slow and awkwardly at (again guessing 1 side each 1/4 second)
>
> Also, when the cube face settles into its full-screen view it isn't
> very
> smooth. It kind-of "wiggles" into place.
>
> Cylinder rotation also suffers extreme slowness. In 7.6,
> ctrl+alt+button1
> rotated the desktop lightning fast even with animated skydome. In 8.2 there
> is
> marked slowness.
>
> For the new install of 8.2, I completely removed my existing
> ~/.config/compiz
> directory (it's saved if I need it again) and let 8.2 create a fresh config
> directory. I also upgraded python-GTK as required.
>
> I am stumped concerning what I have messed up with the install. I
> have put
> the configs for both 7.6 and 8.2 up at:
>
> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-76/
>
> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-82/
>
> The Default.ini for 76 is:
>
> 82issues> cat compiz-76/compizconfig/Default.ini
> [decoration]
> as_command = emerald --replace
>
> [core]
> as_active_plugins =
>
> core;ccp;png;decoration;minimize;wobbly;place;regex;dbus;resize;zoom;move;fade;cube;switcher;scale;rotate;
> as_run_command0 = <Alt>F2,Button0,,0,false
> as_run = ,Button0,,0,false
> as_texture_filter = 2
> as_toggle_window_shaded_key = Disabled
>
> [screenshot]
>
> [cubecaps]
> s0_top_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these-
> drugs.png;/home/david/Pictures/bonfire_old.png;fusioncap.png
> s0_scale_top_image = true
> s0_bottom_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these-
> drugs.png;compizcap.png
> s0_scale_bottom_image = true
>
> [cube]
> s0_skydome_image = /usr/share/wallpapers/nightwidescreen.png
> s0_active_opacity = 80.000000
> as_next_slide_key = Disabled
> s0_skydome = true
> s0_color = #7378d17a
> s0_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;opensuse;
> s0_skydome_gradient_start_color = #7378d18b
> s0_skydome_gradient_end_color = #77786066
>
> [trailfocus]
>
> [cubereflex]
> s0_intensity = 0.604545
> s0_ground_color1 = #001cd6cc
>
> [annotate]
>
> [ring]
> as_prev_all_key = <Shift><Control><Super>Tab
> as_next_all_key = <Control><Super>Tab
> s0_thumb_width = 525
> s0_thumb_height = 424
> s0_min_scale = 0.351200
>
> [zoom]
>
> [wobbly]
>
> [bench]
>
> [move]
>
> [firepaint]
>
> [cubeaddon]
> s0_sphere_aspect = 0.705100
> s0_ground_color1 = #5763cbcc
> s0_intensity = 0.610200
> s0_top_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;fusioncap.png;
> s0_bottom_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;compizcap.png;
> s0_top_scale = false
> s0_bottom_scale = false
> s0_top_color = #7378d176
> s0_bottom_color = #7378d174
>
> [rotate]
> s0_zoom = 0.628600
>
> [fade]
>
> [shift]
> as_terminate_button = Disabled
>
> [shelf]
> as_reset_key = <Super>k
>
> [expo]
> as_ground_color1 = #2f83cdcc
> as_vp_brightness = 50.000000
> as_scale_factor = 0.800000
> as_ground_size = 0.600000
> as_expo_animation = 1
> as_vp_distance = 0.101400
> as_zoom_time = 0.850000
>
> For 82:
>
> 82issues> cat compiz-82/compizconfig/Default.ini
> [decoration]
> as_command = emerald --replace
>
> [core]
> as_active_plugins =
>
> core;png;decoration;splash;wobbly;svg;resize;zoom;move;shift;cube;obs;switcher;rotate;cubeaddon;expo;
>
> [cube]
> s0_skydome_image = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/1680x1050/78638-
> KDE_Desktop3.5.png
> s0_skydome = true
> s0_active_opacity = 40.000000
> s0_skydome_animated = false
>
> [cubeaddon]
> s0_intensity = 0.640000
> s0_deformation = 1
> s0_sphere_aspect = 0.100000
> s0_cylinder_manual_only = true
> s0_ground_size = 0.300000
> s0_auto_zoom = false
>
> [wobbly]
> s0_spring_k = 6.000000
> s0_friction = 2.500000
>
> [expo]
>
> [rotate]
> s0_zoom = 0.400000
> s0_timestep = 1.000000
> s0_speed = 6.000000
>
> [shift]
> as_terminate_button = Disabled
>
> I can look and tell that there are differences, but not being more
> familiar
> with what the individual settings are, I'm shooting in the dark. Anybody
> see
> anything that would explain the differences in behavior? This may be an
> openSuSE issue. I have been running 8.2 on Arch Linux for a couple of
> months
> without any of these issues. I don't know if that helps, but I really like
> the
> way 8.2 runs and I would like to solve the issues I am having on opensuse.
>
> What do the compiz gurus suggest I try?
>
>
> --
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> Telephone: (936) 715-9333
> Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
> www.rankinlawfirm.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:01:30 +0800
> From: Sam Spilsbury <smspillaz at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [compiz] 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0
> To: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com>
> Cc: "compiz." <compiz at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Message-ID:
> <5e20e5fc0908181701i2621ab02r578f7ae1595d55c3 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Apologies,
>
> Forwarding to the list.
>
> PS. This list is deprecated. Please use the Compiz Community list
> instead (comm at lists.compiz.org IIRC)
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sam Spilsbury<smspillaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:33 AM, David C.
> > Rankin<drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> >> Listmates,
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?I installed 8.2 on opensuse 10.3 from the opensuse XGL repository
> to replace
> >> 7.6. Compiz works with the nvidia 8600 GT card (512M of GDDR3) on the
> box, but
> >> the ctrl+alt <- -> switching behavior is really bad.
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?In 7.6, the ctrl+alt <- -> desktop switching changed desktops
> crisply with
> >> just the slightest hint of the cube detected during the very short and
> nice
> >> switch.
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?In 8.2, the cube hangs fully visible on the desktop for a 1/2
> msec or so
> >> before settling into the full screen view of the selected desktop. I
> have
> >> adjusted all the timings and zooms individually and cannot hit upon a
> workable
> >> switch like with 7.6. (the defaults worked fine on 7.6)
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?Additionally, in 7.6 you could basically "spin" the cube with
> ctrl+alt <- ->
> >> and the spin was smooth and looked perfect. (guessing 1 side each 1/100
> of a
> >> second) In 8.2, there is no "spin" just a "ka-chunk" "ka-chunk" as the
> cube
> >> rotates very slow and awkwardly at (again guessing 1 side each 1/4
> second)
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?Also, when the cube face settles into its full-screen view it
> isn't very
> >> smooth. It kind-of "wiggles" into place.
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?Cylinder rotation also suffers extreme slowness. In 7.6,
> ctrl+alt+button1
> >> rotated the desktop lightning fast even with animated skydome. In 8.2
> there is
> >> marked slowness.
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?For the new install of 8.2, I completely removed my existing
> ~/.config/compiz
> >> directory (it's saved if I need it again) and let 8.2 create a fresh
> config
> >> directory. I also upgraded python-GTK as required.
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?I am stumped concerning what I have messed up with the install. I
> have put
> >> the configs for both 7.6 and 8.2 up at:
> >>
> >> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-76/
> >>
> >> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/compiz/82issues/compiz-82/
> >
> > No real changes have been made to these plugins between releases that
> > would cause major slowness.
> >
> > I would think that you have been hit by the nvidia clocking-down
> > misfeature. Turn on things like blur, etc and see if the card maxes
> > out it's clock speed again.
> >
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?The Default.ini for 76 is:
> >>
> >> 82issues> cat compiz-76/compizconfig/Default.ini
> >> [decoration]
> >> as_command = emerald --replace
> >>
> >> [core]
> >> as_active_plugins =
> >>
> core;ccp;png;decoration;minimize;wobbly;place;regex;dbus;resize;zoom;move;fade;cube;switcher;scale;rotate;
> >> as_run_command0 = <Alt>F2,Button0,,0,false
> >> as_run = ,Button0,,0,false
> >> as_texture_filter = 2
> >> as_toggle_window_shaded_key = Disabled
> >>
> >> [screenshot]
> >>
> >> [cubecaps]
> >> s0_top_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these-
> >> drugs.png;/home/david/Pictures/bonfire_old.png;fusioncap.png
> >> s0_scale_top_image = true
> >> s0_bottom_images = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/stay-off-these-
> >> drugs.png;compizcap.png
> >> s0_scale_bottom_image = true
> >>
> >> [cube]
> >> s0_skydome_image = /usr/share/wallpapers/nightwidescreen.png
> >> s0_active_opacity = 80.000000
> >> as_next_slide_key = Disabled
> >> s0_skydome = true
> >> s0_color = #7378d17a
> >> s0_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;opensuse;
> >> s0_skydome_gradient_start_color = #7378d18b
> >> s0_skydome_gradient_end_color = #77786066
> >>
> >> [trailfocus]
> >>
> >> [cubereflex]
> >> s0_intensity = 0.604545
> >> s0_ground_color1 = #001cd6cc
> >>
> >> [annotate]
> >>
> >> [ring]
> >> as_prev_all_key = <Shift><Control><Super>Tab
> >> as_next_all_key = <Control><Super>Tab
> >> s0_thumb_width = 525
> >> s0_thumb_height = 424
> >> s0_min_scale = 0.351200
> >>
> >> [zoom]
> >>
> >> [wobbly]
> >>
> >> [bench]
> >>
> >> [move]
> >>
> >> [firepaint]
> >>
> >> [cubeaddon]
> >> s0_sphere_aspect = 0.705100
> >> s0_ground_color1 = #5763cbcc
> >> s0_intensity = 0.610200
> >> s0_top_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;fusioncap.png;
> >> s0_bottom_images = /usr/share/compiz/opensuse_alien.png;compizcap.png;
> >> s0_top_scale = false
> >> s0_bottom_scale = false
> >> s0_top_color = #7378d176
> >> s0_bottom_color = #7378d174
> >>
> >> [rotate]
> >> s0_zoom = 0.628600
> >>
> >> [fade]
> >>
> >> [shift]
> >> as_terminate_button = Disabled
> >>
> >> [shelf]
> >> as_reset_key = <Super>k
> >>
> >> [expo]
> >> as_ground_color1 = #2f83cdcc
> >> as_vp_brightness = 50.000000
> >> as_scale_factor = 0.800000
> >> as_ground_size = 0.600000
> >> as_expo_animation = 1
> >> as_vp_distance = 0.101400
> >> as_zoom_time = 0.850000
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?For 82:
> >>
> >> 82issues> cat compiz-82/compizconfig/Default.ini
> >> [decoration]
> >> as_command = emerald --replace
> >>
> >> [core]
> >> as_active_plugins =
> >>
> core;png;decoration;splash;wobbly;svg;resize;zoom;move;shift;cube;obs;switcher;rotate;cubeaddon;expo;
> >>
> >> [cube]
> >> s0_skydome_image = /home/david/linux/wallpapers/1680x1050/78638-
> >> KDE_Desktop3.5.png
> >> s0_skydome = true
> >> s0_active_opacity = 40.000000
> >> s0_skydome_animated = false
> >>
> >> [cubeaddon]
> >> s0_intensity = 0.640000
> >> s0_deformation = 1
> >> s0_sphere_aspect = 0.100000
> >> s0_cylinder_manual_only = true
> >> s0_ground_size = 0.300000
> >> s0_auto_zoom = false
> >>
> >> [wobbly]
> >> s0_spring_k = 6.000000
> >> s0_friction = 2.500000
> >>
> >> [expo]
> >>
> >> [rotate]
> >> s0_zoom = 0.400000
> >> s0_timestep = 1.000000
> >> s0_speed = 6.000000
> >>
> >> [shift]
> >> as_terminate_button = Disabled
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?I can look and tell that there are differences, but not being
> more familiar
> >> with what the individual settings are, I'm shooting in the dark. Anybody
> see
> >> anything that would explain the differences in behavior? This may be an
> >> openSuSE issue. I have been running 8.2 on Arch Linux for a couple of
> months
> >> without any of these issues. I don't know if that helps, but I really
> like the
> >> way 8.2 runs and I would like to solve the issues I am having on
> opensuse.
> >>
> >> ? ? ? ?What do the compiz gurus suggest I try?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
> >> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
> >> 510 Ochiltree Street
> >> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> >> Telephone: (936) 715-9333
> >> Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
> >> www.rankinlawfirm.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> compiz mailing list
> >> compiz at lists.freedesktop.org
> >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/compiz
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sam Spilsbury
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sam Spilsbury
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:47:14 -0500
> From: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [compiz] 8.2 behaving weird on openSuSE 10.3 & 11.0
> To: compiz at lists.freedesktop.org
> Message-ID: <200908190547.14418.drankinatty at suddenlinkmail.com>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Tuesday 18 August 2009 07:01:30 pm you wrote:
> > Apologies,
> >
> > Forwarding to the list.
> >
> > PS. This list is deprecated. Please use the Compiz Community list
> > instead (comm at lists.compiz.org IIRC)
> >
> <snip>
> > > --
> > > Sam Spilsbury
> >
>
>
> Thanks Sam,
>
> I found a list at community at lists.compiz-fusion.org, is that the
> correct one
> or just another stray? Also FYI, the "Team" link on the compiz site goes to
> 404. (Now I know the shake-up wasn't that bad...:-) I'll test with blur and
> see if the nvidia downclocking "feature" is catching me when I get to the
> office.
>
> That seems likely though. On my Arch Linux box where 8.2 works
> great, I have
> an 8800 GT that seems stuck in full-power mode. If I shut the box down and
> let
> it cool for a few hours, then restart, card fan speed is fine for a few
> hours,
> then the fan speed goes back through the roof. Temps are not the problem.
> CPU
> temps never get above 38 deg. C, drive temps are:
>
> 05:40 archangel:~> hdtemp
> /dev/sda: ST3500630AS: 35?C
> /dev/sdc: ST3500630AS: 40?C
> /dev/sdb: ST3750330AS: 37?C
> /dev/sdd: ST3750330AS: 38?C
>
> GPU temp reports 67 deg C, and case ambient (reported by the nvidia card is
> at
> 50 c.) My guess says it looks like an nvidia driver temp reporting issue
> there. But there isn't a bit of delay in compiz and glxgears frame rates
> show
> greater than 10K fps.
>
> If on opensuse downclocking *is* the case, "Irony" wins. It will be
> a case of
> (1) With compiz, my card downclocks on opensuse until it is asleep, (2)
> without opensuse, it sounds like a jet engine preparing for takeoff. And
> with
> ATI, if downclocking doesn't work, you can fry eggs on my laptop's palm
> rest.
> Go figure... (I wish they would just opensource the drivers so competent
> programmers could fix the mess.)
>
> Thanks for your help. You guys keep up the great work. 8.2 is really
> a fine
> piece of code. I can't wait until 9 beta.
>
> --
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
> Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> Telephone: (936) 715-9333
> Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
> www.rankinlawfirm.com
>
>
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