[CREATE] About publish book about LGM meeting(Wang Lingzheng)

Tue Apr 27 04:02:13 PDT 2010

Thanks all  suggestions about this idea,  thank you everyone!
i try my best get visa to Belgium these days in China, wish i can get visa
and see friends,then interview face to face.
regards!
Wang Lingzheng

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>   3. Re: panel discussion (proposal): Web apps (Schrijver)
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>   5. off topic: decentralised social networking (Schrijver)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:30:56 -0700
> From: Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>
> Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting
> To: Mario Behling <mb at mariobehling.de>
> Cc: florica <florica at fabricatorz.com>, create at lists.freedesktop.org
> Message-ID:
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> Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book.
> Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings
>
> Are they proceedings or something else?
>
> I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content.
> I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too.
>
> Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts.
>
> http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book
>
> Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I
> had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF...
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <mb at mariobehling.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to
> > translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version
> > in Vietnam.
> >
> > - Mario
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> >> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's
> >> work and know her project in Beijing.
> >>
> >> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>
> wrote:
> >>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>>
> >>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <wanglingzheng000 at gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> ? ? ?can i ?create one book about LGM meeting in June? ?i mean need
> consider
> >>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion.
> >>>>>
> >>>> If the book is licensed with something from freedomdefined.org, and
> >>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to
> >>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome
> >>>> contribution :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> There are ?interesting pictures and words in this book in my opinion,
> i can
> >>>>> write in English and Chinese after ?i interview designers who join
> LGM
> >>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what
> >>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control
> >>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source
> in
> >>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> CREATE mailing list
> >>> CREATE at lists.freedesktop.org
> >>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Phillips
> >> http://rejon.org/
> >> http://fabricatorz.com/
> >> http://status.net/
> >> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> >> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> >> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________
> >
> > Mario Behling
> > mb at lxde.org
> > Vietnam +84 1286380690
> > International +49 30 88764502
> > Fax +4932121218971
> > XMPP: mariobehling at jabber.ccc.de
> > http://mariobehling.de
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Phillips
> http://rejon.org/
> http://fabricatorz.com/
> http://status.net/
> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:32:20 -0700
> From: Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>
> Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting
> To: Mario Behling <mb at mariobehling.de>
> Cc: florica <florica at fabricatorz.com>, create at lists.freedesktop.org,
>        Christopher Adams <christopher.lee.adams at gmail.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <i2xd21bc5f51004261632v85e24135x5ca5f81b78901907 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I'm also adding Christopher Adams who published http://freesouls.cc
> with Joi Ito last year. Would love to have his input on, but also
> don't want to overload this process to the point of failure in too
> many bodies.
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> > Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book.
> > Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings
> >
> > Are they proceedings or something else?
> >
> > I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content.
> > I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too.
> >
> > Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts.
> >
> > http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book
> >
> > Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I
> > had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF...
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <mb at mariobehling.de>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to
> >> translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version
> >> in Vietnam.
> >>
> >> - Mario
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> >>> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's
> >>> work and know her project in Beijing.
> >>>
> >>> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free.
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>
> wrote:
> >>>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <wanglingzheng000 at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ? ? ?can i ?create one book about LGM meeting in June? ?i mean need
> consider
> >>>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> If the book is licensed with something from freedomdefined.org, and
> >>>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to
> >>>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome
> >>>>> contribution :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There are ?interesting pictures and words in this book in my
> opinion, i can
> >>>>>> write in English and Chinese after ?i interview designers who join
> LGM
> >>>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what
> >>>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control
> >>>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source
> in
> >>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus
> >>>>
> >>>> Craig
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> CREATE mailing list
> >>>> CREATE at lists.freedesktop.org
> >>>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jon Phillips
> >>> http://rejon.org/
> >>> http://fabricatorz.com/
> >>> http://status.net/
> >>> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> >>> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> >>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
> >>
> >> --
> >> _______________________________
> >>
> >> Mario Behling
> >> mb at lxde.org
> >> Vietnam +84 1286380690
> >> International +49 30 88764502
> >> Fax +4932121218971
> >> XMPP: mariobehling at jabber.ccc.de
> >> http://mariobehling.de
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jon Phillips
> > http://rejon.org/
> > http://fabricatorz.com/
> > http://status.net/
> > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> > +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Phillips
> http://rejon.org/
> http://fabricatorz.com/
> http://status.net/
> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:57:33 +0200
> From: Schrijver <eric at authoritism.net>
> Subject: Re: [CREATE] panel discussion (proposal): Web apps
> To: Create ML <create at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Message-ID: <AD9B5083-ED48-423A-BA6D-AE8CD2C80D45 at authoritism.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Very good idea imho.
>
> There is a shift from the desktop towards these web apps, especially since
> many of them are free?the irony :(
>
> Though in the world of web apps free software already has the unique
> selling point that you can run many of the desktop programs headless on your
> webserver?try doing that with a commercial content creation program!
>
> I?ve seen this done with fontforge a couple of times now; it powers the
> conversion engine for cufon, is used in osp?s Nancy. I think wikipedia used
> to use inkscape for converting svg, and I read of people using Open Office
> to generate pdf?s serverside.
>
> But web apps with GUI?s are of course a bit of a tougher nut to crack?
>
> Is there such a thing as a HTML+CSS+JS based port of GTK?
>
> Eric Schrijver
>
> Op 17 apr 2010, om 10:35 heeft Kai-Uwe Behrmann het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Am 15.04.10, 19:22 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:
> >> I'd like to suggest a topic for a panel discussion session at LGM --
> Open
> >> Source Graphics and the Web App.  Jon Phillips touched on this topic in
> his
> >> talk last year in Montreal; I'm interested in asking some specific
> questions
> >> that relate to how the FOSS graphics suite can or should react to the
> RIA
> >> movement (which is mostly non-free).  In addition to Picnik and the
> other
> >> well-known services, Google Docs just added a Drawing app, so it isn't
> going
> >> away.
> >
> > Would networked collaboration a la http://verse.blender.org/ or
> > interfaces like CUPS' http://localhost:631/ fit your panel?
> >
> > kind regards
> > Kai-Uwe Behrmann
> > --
> > developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CREATE mailing list
> > CREATE at lists.freedesktop.org
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:57:55 +0200
> From: Schrijver <eric at authoritism.net>
> Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting
> To: Create ML <create at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Message-ID: <20E0E964-60AB-4E17-B572-87E01870E28C at authoritism.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Awesome.
>
> Craig said:
> >>>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source
> in
> >>>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus
>
> This is for the wiki, I suppose, but do you (or anyone) have any experience
> using scribus in this way? I think it is quite interesting
>
> I am especially interested in scripting scribus so that it can ?compile?
> the versioned source files to a layout automatically.
>
> You could call a scribus script on the post-commit hook of your versioning
> system
>
> in many cases I guess Latex would be simpler for such a thing?but that has
> its limitations?
>
> --
> Eric Schrijver
>
> Op 27 apr 2010, om 01:32 heeft Jon Phillips het volgende geschreven:
>
> > I'm also adding Christopher Adams who published http://freesouls.cc
> > with Joi Ito last year. Would love to have his input on, but also
> > don't want to overload this process to the point of failure in too
> > many bodies.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> >> Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book.
> >> Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings
> >>
> >> Are they proceedings or something else?
> >>
> >> I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content.
> >> I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too.
> >>
> >> Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts.
> >>
> >> http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book
> >>
> >> Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I
> >> had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF...
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <mb at mariobehling.de>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to
> >>> translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version
> >>> in Vietnam.
> >>>
> >>> - Mario
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> >>>> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's
> >>>> work and know her project in Beijing.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <cbradney at zip.com.au>
> wrote:
> >>>>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <wanglingzheng000 at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      can i  create one book about LGM meeting in June?  i mean need
> consider
> >>>>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> If the book is licensed with something from freedomdefined.org, and
> >>>>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to
> >>>>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome
> >>>>>> contribution :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There are  interesting pictures and words in this book in my
> opinion, i can
> >>>>>>> write in English and Chinese after  i interview designers who join
> LGM
> >>>>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what
> >>>>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version
> control
> >>>>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source
> in
> >>>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Craig
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> CREATE mailing list
> >>>>> CREATE at lists.freedesktop.org
> >>>>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jon Phillips
> >>>> http://rejon.org/
> >>>> http://fabricatorz.com/
> >>>> http://status.net/
> >>>> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> >>>> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> >>>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> _______________________________
> >>>
> >>> Mario Behling
> >>> mb at lxde.org
> >>> Vietnam +84 1286380690
> >>> International +49 30 88764502
> >>> Fax +4932121218971
> >>> XMPP: mariobehling at jabber.ccc.de
> >>> http://mariobehling.de
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Phillips
> >> http://rejon.org/
> >> http://fabricatorz.com/
> >> http://status.net/
> >> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> >> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> >> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jon Phillips
> > http://rejon.org/
> > http://fabricatorz.com/
> > http://status.net/
> > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> > +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
> > _______________________________________________
> > CREATE mailing list
> > CREATE at lists.freedesktop.org
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:13:33 +0200
> From: Schrijver <eric at authoritism.net>
> Subject: [CREATE] off topic: decentralised social networking
> To: Create ML <create at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Message-ID: <07F0765A-8EE7-4459-9A66-FE6FB8FA61EF at authoritism.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Since I became social network junky I worry a lot about the privacy
> implications of such centralised non-free software. So I figured social
> networking should be distributed. And also figured that this would be a
> ludicrous hassle to implement.
>
> But last week I came across the onesocialweb project.
> Their code went online last week (under the apache license). They rigged
> openfire XMPP (instant messaging) servers so that they have social
> functionality. You set up your on social network on such a server, and these
> servers can subsequently connect into what they call ?the federation?.
> Distributed, connected!
>
> http://onesocialweb.org
> Since the release the first few nodes have already gone online.
>
> I just wanted to point to this project because I think this and similar
> software can only become something if we start playing with it. Otherwise it
> just stays a lab project or thought experiment?
> &social networking is here to stay, and in spite of common scepsis I
> believe it can be quite stimulating for creatives.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric Schrijver
>
> ps
>
> found this via the comments on the proposals at
> http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud
> much more interesting links in the comments including
> http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338 Eben Moglen; Freedom in the cloud
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:40:50 -0700
> From: Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>
> Subject: Re: [CREATE] off topic: decentralised social networking
> To: Schrijver <eric at authoritism.net>
> Cc: Create ML <create at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <v2pd21bc5f51004261740vcdc0f0e6j34741452de315e7b at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> <topPost /><offTopic />
>
> I haven't seen this. Looks like its funded by vodafone (big company!).
> You've seen what I'm working on, right: http://status.net and using
> the http://ostatus.org protocol mashup and we built http://identi.ca
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Schrijver <eric at authoritism.net> wrote:
> > Since I became social network junky I worry a lot about the privacy
> implications of such centralised non-free software. So I figured social
> networking should be distributed. And also figured that this would be a
> ludicrous hassle to implement.
> >
> > But last week I came across the onesocialweb project.
> > Their code went online last week (under the apache license). They rigged
> openfire XMPP (instant messaging) servers so that they have social
> functionality. You set up your on social network on such a server, and these
> servers can subsequently connect into what they call ?the federation?.
> Distributed, connected!
> >
> > http://onesocialweb.org
> > Since the release the first few nodes have already gone online.
> >
> > I just wanted to point to this project because I think this and similar
> software can only become something if we start playing with it. Otherwise it
> just stays a lab project or thought experiment?
> > &social networking is here to stay, and in spite of common scepsis I
> believe it can be quite stimulating for creatives.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Eric Schrijver
> >
> > ps
> >
> > found this via the comments on the proposals at
> > http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud
> > much more interesting links in the comments including
> > http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338 Eben Moglen; Freedom in the cloud
> > _______________________________________________
> > CREATE mailing list
> > CREATE at lists.freedesktop.org
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Phillips
> http://rejon.org/
> http://fabricatorz.com/
> http://status.net/
> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto
> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global)
> +86.134.3957.2035 (china)
>
>
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