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companies) and from
2000 USD for companies like Lufthansa, KLM, AirFrance etc. From Kiev -
1600/2500 USD
Such travel expenses are more than price for one week resort on Maldives or
Seishell islands in All Inclusive option
(info from local tour operators). If LGM'ers wish some exotics (I think it'=
s
a main reason for Vietnam) and to combine
a trip to the conference there is no problem organizing LGM in classic
touristic countries like Egypt/Cyprus/Turkey/Israel
(last option may be not a good for human rights lawyers). Any large travel
company can help in this issue and
provides additional discount due to large number of participators. Also by
this way all accommodation issues will be
resolved automatically. It's not my personal invention - a lot of
conferences/meetings are organized using travel companies
from these countries.
Regards,
Igor Novikov
sK1 Project
http://sk1project.org
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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Louis Desjardins <louis.desjardins at gmail.co=
m
> wrote:
> Hi Board and all,
>
> Let=92s put this in the shortest possible words.
>
> /short words begins/
>
> LGM is a dev conf with artists.
>
> If devs are not present, it defeats the purpose of LGM.
>
> /end of short words/
>
> Louis
>
> p.s. I think it would be by far more preferable if we coudl reach a
> consensus about the 2011 venue. With all respect due to any contrary idea=
I
> think it=92s much too early to go to Vietnam or basically to any Southern=
Asia
> venue. We might be ready in 2012, or maybe on a longer run. I am confiden=
t
> we will go to Vietnam one day. But from the organisation stand point, I
> think it=92s only good if we start evaluating this venue within at least =
a
> 2-year time frame. There is nothing at stake that would convince me of
> urging this decision. We=92ll get there when we=92re ready, just like we=
=92ll get
> any new version when it=92s ready. Pure Open Source philosophy.
>
> Here are some figures that are worth to be considered. A long trip with a
> short window for most of the developers and a considerable amount of mone=
y.
> The trip to Vietnam (and back) is 1 stop when not 2 stops.
>
> Montreal > 1600 CAD > 37 hours
> Boston > 1800 CAD > 24 hours
> Dallas > 1800 CAD > 35 hours
> New York > 1900 CAD > 20 to 25 hours
> San Francisco > 1300 CAD > 26 hours
> London UK > 1200 - 1700 CAD > 16 - 22 hours
> Paris > 1400 - 1800 CAD > 16 hours
> Berlin > 1100 - 1500 CAD > 16 hours
> Zurich > 1300 CAD > 26 hours
> Sao Paulo > 2900 - 3000 CAD > 29 to 45 hours
> Moscow > 1300 CAD > 20 to 25 hours
> Oslo > 1300 CAD > 20 hours
> Copenhague > 1300 CAD > 17 hours
> Amsterdam > 1400 CAD > 17 hours
>
> Prices and duration of trip taken from expedia.com
>
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Hi all!<br><br>Well it's highly optimistic prices. Often people reserve=
=20
tickets ~one month before conference.<br>From Moscow tickets on next=20
month start from 1300 USD (unknown air companies) and from<br>2000 USD=20
for companies like Lufthansa, KLM, AirFrance etc. From Kiev - 1600/2500=20
USD<br>
<br>Such travel expenses are more than price for one week resort on=20
Maldives or Seishell islands in All Inclusive option<br>(info from local
tour operators). If LGM'ers wish some exotics (I think it's a main=
=20
reason for Vietnam) <span><span title=3D"">and to=20
combine <br>a trip to the conference there is no problem organizing LGM=20
in classic touristic countries like Egypt/Cyprus/Turkey/Israel<br>(last=20
option may be not a good for human rights lawyers). Any large travel=20
company can help in this issue and <br>
provides additional discount due to large number of participators. Also=20
by this way all accommodation issues will be <br>resolved automatically.
It's not my personal invention - a lot of conferences/meetings are=20
organized using travel companies<br>
from these countries.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Igor Novikov<br>sK1 Project<br=
><a href=3D"http://sk1project.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://sk1project.org=
</a><br><br>P.S.: sorry for copy - CREATE list daemon blocked message in &#=
39;Reply to all' option due to "</span></span>Too many recipients =
to the message" reason<span><span title=3D"">.<br>
<br></span></span><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at=
6:14 AM, Louis Desjardins <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:louis.de=
sjardins at gmail.com">louis.desjardins at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-l=
eft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Board and all,<br><br>Let=92s put this in the shortest possible words.<b=
r><br><span style=3D"font-family: courier new,monospace;">/short words begi=
ns/</span><br><br>LGM is a dev conf with artists.<br><br>If devs are not pr=
esent, it defeats the purpose of LGM.<br>
<br><span style=3D"font-family: courier new,monospace;">/end of short words=
/</span><br><br>Louis<br><span style=3D"font-family: courier new,monospace;=
"></span><br>p.s. I think it would be by far more preferable if we coudl=A0=
reach a consensus about the 2011 venue. With all respect due to any contra=
ry idea I think it=92s much too early to go to Vietnam or basically to any =
Southern Asia venue. We might be ready in 2012, or maybe on a longer run. I=
am confident we will go to Vietnam one day. But from the organisation stan=
d point, I think it=92s only good if we start evaluating this venue within =
at least a 2-year time frame. There is nothing at stake that would convince=
me of urging this decision. We=92ll get there when we=92re ready, just lik=
e we=92ll get any new version when it=92s ready. Pure Open Source philosoph=
y.<br>
<br>Here are some figures that are worth to be considered. A long trip with=
a short window for most of the developers and a considerable amount of mon=
ey. The trip to Vietnam (and back) is 1 stop when not 2 stops.<br><br>
<div>
Montreal > 1600 CAD > 37 hours</div><div>Boston > 1800 CAD > 24=
hours</div><div>Dallas > 1800=A0CAD=A0> 35 hours</div><div>New York =
> 1900=A0CAD=A0> 20 to 25 hours</div><div>San Francisco > 1300=A0C=
AD=A0> 26 hours=A0</div>
<div>London UK > 1200 - 1700=A0CAD=A0> 16 - 22 hours</div><div>Paris =
> 1400 - 1800=A0CAD=A0> 16 hours</div><div>Berlin > 1100 - 1500=A0=
CAD=A0> 16 hours</div><div>Zurich > 1300=A0CAD=A0> 26 hours</div><=
div>Sao Paulo > 2900 - 3000=A0CAD=A0> 29 to 45 hours</div>
<div>Moscow > 1300=A0CAD=A0> 20 to 25 hours</div><div>Oslo > 1300=
=A0CAD=A0> 20 hours</div><div>Copenhague > 1300=A0CAD=A0> 17 hours=
</div><div>Amsterdam > 1400=A0CAD=A0> 17 hours</div><div><br></div>Pr=
ices and duration of trip taken from <a href=3D"http://expedia.com/" target=
=3D"_blank">expedia.com</a><br>
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