[CREATE] LGM11 panel proposal: attracting new devs

Christopher Adams chris at raysend.com
Sun Feb 20 22:30:57 PST 2011


Mushon,

That is a really fine and provocative suggestion on your part—to write about
software that does not exist but should. It seeks the excluded middle
between the Floss Manuals which are too perfunctory on the one hand and too
presumptuous on the other *(An Open Web,* which I also worked on, being a
species of the latter).

LGM would be a great opportunity to see these possibilities played out.

- Christopher


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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, jon at rejon.org <jon at rejon.org> wrote:

> I totally agree Mushon. Totally. Manuals are dead. Atrophied. Even
> worse when they get printed.
>
> Yes, totally, make future manuals, then fill in the blanks to them.
>
> That is totally the approach I took in participating in the open web book:
>
> http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/
>
> There is a book sprint in Toronto by adam on the web from the 7 -
> 12...should talk with adam to see if possible to do one at LGM before
> or after.
>
> So what would the future manual look like? Ideas for that?
>
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Mushon Zer-Aviv <mushonitp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:17, Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com> wrote:
> >
> > All fodder for discussion at LGM. Certainly we need to get out of the
> dark
> > ages of documentation as an afterthought.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > This is actually a huge issue I recently discussed with Adam Hyde of
> Floss
> > Manuals. FM was initially established to address a blind-spot for Floss —
> > documentation. It developed the book sprint documentation methodology
> which
> > I am sure you guys are familiar with.
> > Last year I participated in "Collaborative Futures" the first book
> initiated
> > by FM that was not documenting a procedure but describing the past,
> present
> > and future of open networked collaboration. It was much much harder, but
> > there was something there that really clicked. And after a second sprint
> on
> > the book I actually think it's a quite recommended read. (and it is
> always
> > available for further editing)
> > What I proposed to Adam is that FM could start experimenting in writing
> > manuals for software that was not developed yet. Basically asking "how
> would
> > we like it to work?" before we say "this is how do you need to use it."
> This
> > would actually be addressing another blind-spot for Floss which is
> > strategy.
> > I know Adam is really excited about this idea and maybe LGM could be the
> > first place to try it out. Do consider it would probably not work the
> first
> > time and would need some iterations but it could be a much needed
> > intervention into a process that we all agree needs some challenging.
> > The infrequent lurker,
> > Mushon Zer-Aviv
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