[CREATE] LGM11 panel proposal: attracting new devs

Mon Feb 21 09:09:09 PST 2011

Yeah, what would be cool is to like LGM2020. What does it look like, web,
desktop, internet, processing power, networking, devices, touchscreen. What
is the ideal scenario that we can envision, and then connect up?

Jon

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Nathan Willis <nwillis at glyphography.com>wrote:

> I think this topic is important enough (and interesting enough, so far)
> that "Documentation of the Future" (meaning all the improve-docs ideas, not
> just the write-the-manual-first one) ought to be a panel in its own right,
> apart from "attracting new participants" ....
>
> And maybe it ought to be on day one, so we can workshop some of it on days
> 2+....
>
> It's cool.  LGM's definitely the place where new and unusual FOSS
> approaches ought to come out of the woodwork....
>
> Nate
>
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> PS: ....
>
> 2011/2/21 helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com>
>
>  very interesting idea to write the manual first :)
>>
>> with UpStage, we are waiting for the release of a majorly altered &
>> enhanced media management system, & as this means rewriting half the manual
>> i thought, this is a good time to transfer the manual to flossmanuals; so i
>> started it, then i stopped because the students who are doing the coding are
>> behind schedule. however, now i think i might just go ahead & write it
>> anyway (with others hopefully contributing) & point the students to it to to
>> get them inspired & also perhaps pre-empt some things that might have needed
>> to be changed later.
>>
>> h : )
>>
>>
>> On 21/02/11 7:30 AM, Christopher Adams wrote:
>>
>> Mushon,
>>
>>  That is a really fine and provocative suggestion on your part—to write
>> about software that does not exist but should. It seeks the excluded middle
>> between the Floss Manuals which are too perfunctory on the one hand and too
>> presumptuous on the other *(An Open Web,* which I also worked on, being a
>> species of the latter).
>>
>>  LGM would be a great opportunity to see these possibilities played out.
>>
>>  - Christopher
>>
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>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, jon at rejon.org <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally agree Mushon. Totally. Manuals are dead. Atrophied. Even
>>> worse when they get printed.
>>>
>>> Yes, totally, make future manuals, then fill in the blanks to them.
>>>
>>> That is totally the approach I took in participating in the open web
>>> book:
>>>
>>> http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/
>>>
>>> There is a book sprint in Toronto by adam on the web from the 7 -
>>> 12...should talk with adam to see if possible to do one at LGM before
>>> or after.
>>>
>>> So what would the future manual look like? Ideas for that?
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Mushon Zer-Aviv <mushonitp at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:17, Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > All fodder for discussion at LGM. Certainly we need to get out of the
>>> dark
>>> > ages of documentation as an afterthought.
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> >
>>> > This is actually a huge issue I recently discussed with Adam Hyde of
>>> Floss
>>> > Manuals. FM was initially established to address a blind-spot for Floss
>>> —
>>> > documentation. It developed the book sprint documentation methodology
>>> which
>>> > I am sure you guys are familiar with.
>>> > Last year I participated in "Collaborative Futures" the first book
>>> initiated
>>> > by FM that was not documenting a procedure but describing the past,
>>> present
>>> > and future of open networked collaboration. It was much much harder,
>>> but
>>> > there was something there that really clicked. And after a second
>>> sprint on
>>> > the book I actually think it's a quite recommended read. (and it is
>>> always
>>> > available for further editing)
>>> > What I proposed to Adam is that FM could start experimenting in writing
>>> > manuals for software that was not developed yet. Basically asking "how
>>> would
>>> > we like it to work?" before we say "this is how do you need to use it."
>>> This
>>> > would actually be addressing another blind-spot for Floss which is
>>> > strategy.
>>> > I know Adam is really excited about this idea and maybe LGM could be
>>> the
>>> > first place to try it out. Do consider it would probably not work the
>>> first
>>> > time and would need some iterations but it could be a much needed
>>> > intervention into a process that we all agree needs some challenging.
>>> > The infrequent lurker,
>>> > Mushon Zer-Aviv
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