[CREATE] an interesting development?

[Bassam Kurdali]

I guess this is not *that* interesting from a blender perspective unless
you :
a- don't care about using non free software
b- wanted to use prman all along but couldn't afford the license
c- are not going to use it for commercial things or:
d- will buy the now much cheaper license

Other than that- I suspect this move from Pixar is actually to try to
save prmans marketshare from dwindling, as there are several other
renderers + in house solutions that are taking over. Vray, Arnold both
come to mind.

There is no source code release with this and I doubt it is actually
very useful from dev standpoint.

As read before other releases from Pixar/Disney have been much more
interesting (FLOSS releases like the afformentioned OpenSubdiv which is
currently being integrated and that I'm quite hyped about)


On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 11:34 +0200, Camille Bissuel wrote:
> Ok, I read too quickly...
> 
> 
> I was thinking to OpenSubdiv for example
> http://www.blendernation.com/2014/05/12/pixars-opensubdiv-coming-soon-to-blender/
> https://github.com/PixarAnimationStudios/OpenSubdiv
> 
> 
> but it's apache licensed, not the same.
> 
> 
> Here is the official annoucement :
> http://renderman.pixar.com/view/25946
> 
> and the EULA :
> http://renderman.pixar.com/view/ncr-eula
> 
> 
> Which say : 
> 3. No Modifications or Reverse Compilation. END USER MAY NOT MODIFY,
> TRANSLATE, DISASSEMBLE, REVERSE ENGINEER, DECOMPILE OR CREATE
> DERIVATIVE WORKS BASED ON THE PIXAR SOFTWARE OR DOCUMENTATION OR ANY
> COPY, IN WHOLE OR IN PART.
> 
> 
> So, no code, no reverse engenering. False alert ... 
> 
> 
> 
> Have a nice day nevertheless...
> 
> 
> Camille
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 2014-06-04 11:22 GMT+02:00 Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard at gmail.com>:
>         Hi,
>         
>         On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Camille Bissuel
>         <camille at nylnook.com> wrote:
>         > Hi all,
>         >
>         > at least, it can allow Blender's people to study the code...
>         maybe it may
>         > help the Cycle rendering engine.
>         
>         
>         Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that the linked
>         article
>         writes about source code anywhere. The way I understood it,
>         they just
>         provide a license free-of-charge for non-commercial usage. In
>         other
>         words they would just provide the binary, not any source code.
>         
>         Also even though they might provide source code, this is
>         always
>         dangerous usage of non-FLOSS source code. If a piece of code
>         in a
>         FLOSS program ends up too close from a proprietary code, you
>         might end
>         up sued. And that's not even speaking about software patents
>         on
>         algorithms (which are not valid in Europe, but people tend to
>         be
>         careful anyway)...
>         
>         Jehan
>         
>         > So that's quite a good news ;)
>         >
>         > Have a nice day,
>         > Camille
>         >
>         > Nylnook
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>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > 2014-06-03 19:29 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Lafuente
>         <r at manufacturaindependente.org>:
>         >
>         >> The source doesn't appear to be available, and the
>         restrictive uses
>         >> (personal and noncommercial use only) make this very
>         non-free software.
>         >>
>         >> On 06/03/2014 05:37 PM, Gregory Pittman wrote:
>         >> > http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27677712
>         >> >
>         >> > I'm not sure if there is any interface with Blender and
>         RenderMan...
>         >> >
>         >> > Greg
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