[RFC] should we ignore unknown key in match rule?

Simon McVittie simon.mcvittie at collabora.co.uk
Mon Jun 24 04:36:31 PDT 2013


On 24/06/13 08:26, Yang Chengwei wrote:
> Hi List,

No need to Cc me - oddly enough, the person who has done most of the
D-Bus releases in the last 2 years does read the mailing list :-)

> I just found that the *new* dbus-monitor can't run with the *old" 
> dbus-daemon.

"Old" here means 1.4, which is older than the current stable branch. I
don't support older-than-current-stable D-Bus versions, except for
non-intrusive security fixes.

> Error: Unknown key "eavesdrop" in match rule
> 
> This is cause by "eavesdrop" is newly added to dbus to fix an
> issue: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37890

The right way to fix this would be to do the AddMatch with eavesdrop,
and if it fails, try again without it - like Bustle does[1]. I'd
accept a patch that did this, if you think compatibility with D-Bus
1.4 is really that important.

[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/bustle/tree/c-sources/pcap-monitor.c

> Again, if an implementation sees a header field code that it does
> not expect, it must ignore that field, as it will be part of a new
> (but compatible) version of this specification.

This is specifically talking about header fields: if it was meant to
be about other constructs, it would say so.

> So I think it's applicable to the match rule, say: ignore unknown
> keys in match rule.

If you think the D-Bus Specification should have similar wording about
match rules too, that's a reasonable request to consider.

In general, adding keys to a match rule makes it narrower, so in
general, adding an unrecognised key would result in the client
receiving more messages than it had intended to. In principle, clients
should consider match rules to be advisory, not mandatory, so in
principle, it should be prepared to ignore those extra messages. In
practice, there have been clients that are buggy if they receive
unwanted messages.

So, it's a question of which of these is more valuable:

* making it fractionally easier to add more match rule keys (clients
  wouldn't have to "guard" their AddMatch calls, if they can depend on
  a D-Bus version new enough that it ignores unknown keys)

* minimizing how much we break the expectations of clients that wrongly
  expect their match rules to be exclusive

If we make this change to the specification, it won't change the
behaviour of currently-deployed copies of D-Bus, so clients using new
match rules will *still* have to "guard" AddMatch calls until they can
depend on a new enough D-Bus version that it has the "ignore unknown
match rules" behaviour. I think that's the sort of behavioural change
that should go through a development branch (1.7), meaning it won't be
widespread until 1.8.

    S



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