Missing Thunderbolt 3 PCI-E atomics support

Alex Deucher alexdeucher at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 20:03:52 UTC 2019


As Mika said pci atomics have to be supported by the bridge for the
device to be able to use them.

Alex

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM Dieter Nützel <Dieter at nuetzel-hh.de> wrote:
>
> Hello to both of you, Tim and Mika,
>
> sorry that I step in so late, but after I've read that Tim's laptop
> didn't have PCIe atomics (is it realy PCIe 2.xx?) I have some hints,
> too. Question: Is PCIe 3.xx+ needed together with Thunderbold 3 or is
> PCIe 2.xx enaugth (like Tim's laptop)?
>
> If Tim's laptop is realy only PCIe 2.xx (_without_ atomics) like mine
> 'old' Intel Xeon X3470 (3400 Series Chipset) _without_ atomics you/we
> only have the option running Clover or AMD-pro's OpenCL. ROCm isn't an
> option with Polaris (20/RX580, here), currently. But we had some
> questions about AMD (Polaris) running as eGPU on one of our lists
> (mesa-devel / dri-devel / amd-gfx), lately.
>
> I've CC'ed Alex.
>
> Have a look here (ROCm 2.2), too:
> https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/open-source-amd-linux/1086267-radeon-rocm-2-2-released-with-vega-20-optimization-caffe2-multi-gpu-training?p=1086387#post1086387
>
> Greetings,
> Dieter
>
> Am 14.03.2019 19:36, schrieb Timur Kristóf:
> > On Thu, 2019-03-14 at 20:17 +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >> > > > Here is the output of 'lspci -vv':
> >> > > > https://pastebin.com/Qt5RUFVc
> >> > >
> >> > > The root port (1c.4) says this:
> >> > >
> >> > >       DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range ABC, TimeoutDis+, LTR+,
> >> > > OBFF
> >> > > Not Supported ARIFwd+
> >> > >     AtomicOpsCap: Routing- 32bit- 64bit- 128bitCAS-
> >> > >
> >> > > Not knowing much about AtomicOps but to me this looks like the
> >> > > root
> >> > > port
> >> > > does not support the feature.
> >> >
> >> > What kind of output should lspci show if the feature were
> >> > supported?
> >>
> >> The AMD card has this:
> >>
> >>          DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis-,
> >> LTR+, OBFF Not Supported
> >>                    AtomicOpsCap: 32bit+ 64bit+ 128bitCAS-
> >>
> >> so I would expect something similar on the root port side as
> >> pci_enable_atomic_ops_to_root() fails otherwise with mask of
> >> PCI_EXP_DEVCAP2_ATOMIC_COMP32 | PCI_EXP_DEVCAP2_ATOMIC_COMP64 that
> >> the
> >> AMD driver requests.
> >>
> >> > As far as I understand the root port is integrated in the CPU, or
> >> > in
> >> > the chipset maybe? It says it's a Sunrise Point-LP, and I googled
> >> > it
> >> > but was unable to find a spec sheet.
> >>
> >> You can find it here:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/6th-gen-core-pch-u-y-io-datasheet-vol-2.html
> >>
> >> Pages 845-826 show the DEVCAP2 register for the 1c.4 (D28/F4) and it
> >> does not seem to have AtomicOps caps set.
> >
> > This would be the 8th gen (8550U) but I assume it has similar
> > capabilities to the 6th gen. So, it seems that this is a hardware
> > limitation of the chipset.
> >
> > Thanks Mika for clearing that up.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tim


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