Why people don't install Flatpak?

Muayyad AlSadi alsadi at gmail.com
Tue Mar 19 14:39:40 UTC 2019


I guess there is a need to split Qt apps and KDE apps.
Qt apps should have ~80MB runtime instead of ~1GB KDE runtime


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:42 AM Gerard Braad <me at gbraad.nl> wrote:

> > Even entire Linux distros are like 1GB, and that the size of ur app.
>
> Correction: the size of the app is likely JUST a few megabytes. But as
> you said, more likely the size of a distro.
> And this is exactly happening. You are running a runtime, which can be
> considered like a snapshot of a stable distro (a userspace) that the
> applications can use. See it like a container or VM (without the
> hypervisor need). This means that whatever the underlying distro does,
> does not affect the userspace used by the appliction... and guess
> what,m this is even shared among the applications. So mostly this
> large chunk of download is a one time thing.
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:38 PM Felipe Borges <felipeborges at gnome.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Please, read
> https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2017/10/02/on-application-sizes-and-bloat-in-flatpak/
> > to understand the storage consumption.
> >
> > Flatpak has the concept of a Runtime which contains low-level
> > dependencies that multiple applications can depend on. Runtimes are
> > useful to avoid duplication (imagine all gtk apps bundling their own
> > Gtk) and to deliver updates (imagine a CVE was found in a core library
> > that many apps depend on).
> >
> > All in all, when you are downloading a Flatpak application from GNOME
> > Software/Flathub that depends on a runtime that you still don't have
> > locally, it will pull the runtime alongside it. Thus the big
> > download-size numbers you  have.
> >
> > So, for instance, when you downloaded the flatpak of a GNOME app, it
> > will likely pull org.gnome.Platform for the first time if you still
> > don't have it. The other GNOME apps you'd install afterwards will have
> > a much smaller download-size.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:05 AM Prabesh bhattarai <prabesh432 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ans: Because of it more than 900mb. That is a huge chunk of RAM and
> memory consumption. Why it is so heavy? Make it run below 100mb.
> > >
> > > Remove unwanted codes.
> > >
> > > Even entire Linux distros are like 1GB, and that the size of ur app.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, look at Snapstore, which take a small amount of RAM
> and memory. And does everything that your software does.
> > >
> > > P.S: Cutdown the flatpak from 930mb to 100mb if possible. Make it
> smooth and sexy.
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