[fdo] Code of Conduct questions

[Jacob Lifshay]

So, it appears as though if we can all reach a compromise on the issue of
explicitly listing bad behaviors, we could end up with a CoC that we can
all agree on.

Jacob

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 00:57 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>
wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:38 AM Jacob Lifshay <programmerjake at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for a detailed response. I'll check with the rest of the
> community, however, from what I can tell, it appears as though there is a
> fundamental difference of opinion, so we will probably have to look
> elsewhere.
>
>  what they've missed is quite common in these binary (polarised)
> proscribed lists: the list of "examples" is unfortunately a slippery
> slope, which, at the extreme end results in the FreeBSD fiasco.
>
>  the much more important part of the charter is the part that's based
> on the systemic laws of organisations, as it's the *interactions* and
> the roles that people play, and the contributions that they bring,
> that need to be respected, appreciated, and honoured.
>
>  once that is understood, it's quite simple to "re-derive" the
> principles on which the "proscribed lists" are based, with the
> following simple sentence:
>
>  the purpose of the systemic laws is to reassure people that they are
> welcome, and that they have a place in the community, that they
> belong; thus if a person makes anyone else feel unwelcome, they do not
> belong, and if a person makes anyone else feel like they do not
> belong, they are not welcome.
>
>  that's as strong and as clear as it ever needs to be, without needing
> to list horrible lists of "example" behaviours.  *anyone* that feels
> belittled or unwelcome by someone else's words or behaviour, there's
> something wrong, plain and simple.
>
>  the rest of the code of conduct that they have is absolutely fine.
>
> l.
>
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