[gst-devel] GStreamer switching to git

[Jan Schmidt]

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:55 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
wrote:
> I think Davids points basically sums up the discussion at the meeting.
> The discussion was not 'which is the ultimate VCS system' as such
> discussions tend to be completely useless and just means we end up
> staying with CVS due to lack of consensus for the forseeable future.
> 
> The general agreement was that it was time to move on from CVS. We knew
> that there is wide agreement in the community about this. So the
> question came down to the kind of things that David listed. 
> 
> So if anyone wants to see GStreamer switch to something else than git,
> that is fine, but you need to start that discussion with two arguments:
> 
> a) We (there needs to be more than one person knowing the system) are
> willing to spend the time and effort to do the conversion and help
> fellow developers with the conversion.
> b) This is something that the freedesktop sysadmins are able and willing
> to help us support.
> 
> So while not everyone who where at the meeting loved git above
> everything else, the agreement was that if one wasn't willing or able to
> provide the above, one was only providing unconstructive stop energy.

Thanks, Christian - you said exactly what I wanted to say on this thread
and iterated the exact reason that I stopped resisting the people with
the energy and knowledge of git to actually move us there.

J.

> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 18:59 -0700, David Schleef wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:49:18AM +0300, Ole André Vadla Ravnås wrote:
> > > So then I feel inclined to ask; why was this decision made without any
> > > technical discussion with all interested parties in the community?
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > The reasons for choosing a new VCS are not technical.  There are
> > essentially only minor technical differences between the various
> > options.  An individual feature may seem very important to you, but
> > in the grand scheme of things, it probably isn't.  Everything has
> > its plusses and minuses.
> > 
> > The reasons for choosing a particular VCS are:
> > 
> >  - Do we have hosting available?  Are we (the main group of developers)
> >    familiar with the admins, know how to find them on IRC, know how to
> >    get them to do maintence, etc?  Does one of us have admin priviliges?
> >    Are there regular backups?
> > 
> >  - Is there someone willing to invest the time (say, two weeks) to
> >    convert the repository, with all its warts, to the new VCS?
> > 
> >  - Is there someone (preferably several people) willing to handhold
> >    anyone in the IRC channel to start using the new VCS?  Are they
> >    capable of nicely answering the same stupid questions 10 times
> >    per day?  Are they able to commit to being around for at least a
> >    few weeks?  Are they able to spend time researching more difficult
> >    problems as they arise?
> > 
> > In each of those cases, the overwhelming choice is git.  Freedesktop.org
> > already uses git for most projects.  Secondly, bilboed has already
> > done a rough conversion, and knows what else needs to be done.  Thirdly,
> > there are several (well-known) people who frequent the channel who are
> > familiar with git, and at least one (myself) that has committed to being
> > a newbie punching bag.
> > 
> > Now, if someone (or two or three) dependable shows up and offers to do
> > all of the above for another VCS, I'd be all for it.  bilboed and I have
> > other projects we could be spending our time on.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > dave...
> > 
> > 
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