Using GStreamer for highly scalable, network streaming project.

Peter Maersk-Moller pmaersk at gmail.com
Wed Jul 24 13:05:31 PDT 2013


Hi Yusuf.

One of the VGA resolutions is 640x480 with 16 colours. We assume 640x480
with full colour though probably converted to some YUV format and encoded
on either PCs or in cameras directly. With the moderate framerate, though
that sometimes means less for the required bandwidth with a given level of
quality, you should be able to get an okay quality with less than 500kbps
per stream. 200 input streams of 500 kbps is 100Mbps. It ought to be
trivial to write 100Mbps onto disk. Linux has a tool for checking write
speeds for disks and you should check the server you want to use. Likewise
you have 1000 streams, which in worst case are 1000 individual reads on
disk unless you impose some limitations and are using an ok quality stream
server. Worst case is then 500Mbps read on same disk as you write to,
unless you load balance over more than one server. This is not completely
trivial, but absolutely doable, if you know what you are doing.

GStreamer can easily be used to running all the reception and saving of
video streams. No doubt about that. However for the server side using RTSP,
I have my doubts. That is to say I have not checked the state of the RTSP
server support for GStreamer, sorry for that, but over time I have come
across so many less optimal implementations of RTSP based servers that I
can have my doubts. RTSP servers seems hard for many to implement for some
unknown reason. But perhaps some here on the list can assure to use
GStreamer for that. I might seek for other RTSP servers that may offer the
needs you quite likely will have for access control, media inspection,
traffic overview etc and then combine the total setup with GStreamer.

Alternatively I can devise a solution for you, though that require some
charging, which you probably is not looking for.

Best regard and good luck with the project.
Peter Maersk-Moller



On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:06 PM, yusuf.husainy <yusuf.husainy at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We had an internal discussion with our client and this is what I got:
>
> You may mean 500 individual cameras rather than 500 different cameras.
> <Yusuf>Yes, 200 to 500 individual cameras to act as source of inbound feed.
> These cameras could be of different types, some may be D-Link surveillance
> cameras, some may be Dropcam camera etc. But assume that all the cameras
> support H.264 video (with/without audio) over RTSP.
>
>
>
>   1) What is your target video resolution?
> VGA
>   2) What is your target frame rate?
> 15-20 fps
>   3) What is your target streaming bandwidth per video feed into the
> system?
> Did not understand the question. Each video stream into the system will be
> VGA resolution H.264+AAC over RTSP, 15~20fps. The feeds come in from
> devices
> in the field; network conditions at feed source (devices) may not be
> constant and reliable. The system should be resilient to handle frame
> loss/packet loss.
>   4) What is the maximum number of concurrent streams you want to be able
> to
> save?
> Per server (EC2 m1.large instance), up to 200 inbound individual concurrent
> streams.
>   5) What is the maximum number of concurrent unique streams you want to be
> able to stream?
> See the above answer. Inbound 200 unique concurrent streams.
>   6) Is 1000 the maximum number of concurrent not unique streams you must
> be
> able to support?
> 1000 outbound concurrent streams. So if there are 1000 viewers, and total
> 200 inbound streams, on average there will be 5 outbound streams per
> inbound
> stream.
>   7) Does the system have to be able to support VoD streams also or just
> Live streams?
> Yes, the 200 inbound streams must be recorded to storage as well as
> streamed
> out live. The 1000 outbound streams is total of live as well as VoD
> outbound
> streams, so for example, 800 Live outbound and 200 VoD outbound. The VoD
> must be from the content recorded from the inbound streams at a previous
> time. Think DVR in the cloud.
>   8) If it needs to support VoD, what is the maximum number of concurrent
> streams it needs to support?
> As stated above. Expected server performance is 200 inbound streams (record
> and stream out simultaneously) and 1000 outbound streams (total of live and
> VoD).
>   9) Can you mix/merge some video feeds to lower the storage and bandwidth
> required or do you need to have them all in full size available?
> Cannot mix/merge. Each stream must be stored individually.
>   10) What will you do with saved video (VoD) as it gets older?
> If configured to do so, the server should delete files older than
> [configured] days, e.g. delete files older than 60 days.
>
>
> I appreciate the help :)
>
> Regards,
> Yusuf Husainy.
> Best regards
> Peter Maersk-Moller
>
>
>
>
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