Update on DeviceKit

[Lennart Poettering]

On Wed, 07.05.08 18:44, Danny Kukawka (danny.kukawka at web.de) wrote:

> > X haters are probably D-Bus haters, too.
> 
> ..probably .. that is not an argument. 
> 
> > It is a totally artificial scenario that someone who refuses to use X
> > would like to control his screen brightness with a D-Bus
> > service. Ignore those crazy people.
> 
> Don't provide a system service only under the assumtion that everything is 
> X-centric. They are not crazy people.

You're spending too much time thinking about people that won't use
your software anyway and would never be thankful. It's like trying to
get blood from a stone, it's forlorn hope.

> > Console logins should be kept around for administration purposes and maybe
> > for some servers. But in those cases you don't care about backlight
> > control anyway.
> >
> [...]
> > > And IIRC I have seen several cases where it didn't work via XBACKLIGHT,
> > > but via HAL (e.g. Dell machines).
> >
> > Yepp, but as soon as HAL is dead it won't work via either. 
> 
> What kind of argument is this? Loosing features and hardware support is 
> acceptable? No, it is not!

Hmm?

This is not a discussion about loosing features. it's one about where
to stick backlight control when HAL is no more. And I guess everyone
except you agree that it is X.

> > So instead of 
> > hooking up everything to a new fancy backlight control daemon you could
> > just hook it up to X where a lot of work has already been done in this
> > area, where an API is established and where some other people do the
> > maintaining for you.
> 
> Nobody speak about a "new fancy backlight control daemon". It should simply go 
> into a DeviceKit-powermanagement (or how ever you would like to call it) and 
> should provice at least the same functionality as currently HAL. And because 
> of this KDE or GNOME (or whatever) applications could use simply the new DBus 
> interface instead of HAL. Thats much easier than do everything
> through X.

"New fancy backlight control daemon" is exactly what
"DeviceKit-powermanagement" sounds like.

Lennart

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