[LGM] [CREATE] LGM-organiser meet in Madrid, today 18:00
a.l.e at ideale.ch
Wed Apr 17 04:22:19 PDT 2013
> On 16 April 2013 19:59, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard at gmail.com>
> > I have been explained off-list that I was basically
> > wrong
> That strikes me as odd, since I also believe that there is genuine and
> solid interest in hosting LGM in the coming years from communities who
> have so far been badly underrepresented due to global inequalities;
> and they are not aware of what the right mailing lists to be on are,
> but that should not in my opinion disqualify them from making a
> proposal to those of us who have been involved for some years and are
> on the right lists.
dave, have you read my email asking for the next venue? haven't you?
why haven't you answered to it with a proposal for argentina?
why didn't you prepare a formal proposal in advance and brought it with
you to madrid?
you knew that in madrid we would have to choose the venue for 2014,
haven't we done it every year?
why didn't you ask me at that time (in advance) to better spread the
why didn't you prepare and spread yourself the call for a venue?
sorry, to have to say this, but after reading all these mails, i'm more
and more convinced that it was not a problem of right channels, but
just a problem of lack of interest.
before the beginning of the lgm 2013 there was only one person who was
seriously interested in organizing the lgm 2014 and that person has
raised his hand and candidated.
we could have asked in any channel we would have wanted and we would
have not got more answers.
in my eyes the "proof" lies in how "well" the pledgie did: it has
been spread in more channels but no significant results. but it's
impossible to bring such proofs "a posteriori".
if you want me to try to find a better cause for this lack of interest,
i would rather look into a non correctly functioning lgm team.
i really welcome the recent team enlargement and i hope that it will
bring back the energy that was missing in the organization of the two
and i believe it will do much better!
we really need much more support for the local team (which in case of
madrid did a wonderful work!!!!)
why do i write all this? because i believe that instead of rushing
several teams to do a last minute candidature for the lgm 2014, we
should rather try to get them to prepare a solid candidature for 2015.
what i fear is that, after we have been chosen the venue for lgm 2014,
next year we will be again sitting at the closing session of the lgm,
again with montreal as the only candidature presented, and see ideas
popping up as an alternative, people asking for a delay in the choice
and so on.
as it has happened every times for a couple of years, now. (with little
this is not serious. sorry.
we have decided that we will give those teams a chance, and we will
have to vote on it.
but as i said, if nobody brings a real reason to not go to montreal,
this one is for me (and i stress it: for me!) the only serious
and this is not because i would not prefer to go to another place
(leipzig probably being the place i would prefer to go to, if you want
to know it... but the guys behind leipzig also knew that we needed a
next LGM (they have already proposed other LGM venues...), had all the
time to prepare their candidature, knew that we would want to choose at
the LGM itself and failed to prepare it in time).
have a nice afternoon
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