[LGM] g+ hangouts on air

Dave Crossland dave at lab6.com
Tue Nov 19 16:37:24 PST 2013

On 19 November 2013 18:27, Jon Nordby <jononor at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to point out that Google Hangouts is an entirely
> proprietary service

I'm curious how you reach this conclusion :-)

There's 3 subpoints to point 3; use of free or nonfree software to watch,
upload, livestream, and record.

To watch, Youtube does not require proprietary software to watch the videos
there, they publish formats in free codecs that open with free browsers,
and the formerly non free codecs were just freed by Cisco (AIUI). There is
also good free software (youtube-dl) for downloading youtube videos to
watch offline. All 6 of the prior LGMs that were recorded are already on
youtube, although 2 are just mirrored there.

To upload, Youtube does not require proprietary software to upload
recordings there; any free browser will do.

If you can do Hangouts on Air with ChromiumOS, youtube does not require
proprietary software to live stream through it. LGM 2013 used proprietary
software to do the livestream, I assume, and I suspect required proprietary
software (Flash) to watch too.

I know Kaveh used proprietary software to record 2007; not sure how the
others were done, but I assume all of them were recorded with proprietary

> I am personally fine with the way things have been handled up until now

So am I, and if it turns out that to do Hangouts On Air you need to install
the proprietary Hangouts browser plugin, I'm OK with that if it gets gratis
and SUPER EASY live streaming and very fast publication of recordings :)
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