[LGM] should LGM or its site have something to say about Charlie Hebdo?

Camille Bissuel camille at nylnook.com
Sun Jan 18 06:25:36 PST 2015


I've done my own publishing by myself, thank you.
I'm not asking LGM to say "Je suis Charlie" as my text proposal tried to
show.
Call it "talk" or "BoF", I still believe there is a problem here. Whatever
we want it or not, thoses event affect LGM indirectly. And if we can't
agree on such a root concept...
End of debate for me.
 Le 18 janv. 2015 14:48, "Alexandre Prokoudine" <
alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com> a écrit :

> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Camille Bissuel wrote:
>
> > Secondly, it's not about gaining publicity, it's about telling to our
> > community at large we support freedom.
>
> Did anyone even _question_ it?
>
> > This whole thread was making me sad at first, and now it's making me
> angry.
> > I'd like to see valid arguments on why you are against supporting
> freedom of
> > speech with some sentences.
>
> Well, and I'd like to read _sensible_ questions instead of
> overreaction. Do you seriously think people wake up in the morning
> thinking "Oh, I hope at least whoever organizes LGM believes in the
> freedom of speech. If only they said something about that"?
>
> There is no single good reason whatsoever to push "nous sommes" where
> "je sois" is an elegant sufficiency. If you _personally_ want to tell
> everyone how you feel about what happened, there is a whole range of
> options to say that without forcing your personal opinion on everyone
> involved with LGM (and posting on the event's website is exactly
> that). Wear a "Je sois Charlie" t-shirt, make a tattoo, post on your
> personal blog, join a street protest etc.
>
> > I discover sadly most of us don't understand what freedom mean. But
> > it's not too late to do some pedagogy.
>
> Oh, I can help you to make some vibrant, memorable slogans for that.
>
> "LGM. We will f*cking lecture you"
>
> Not too soft and about as much arrogant as your original suggestion to
> do pedagogy.
>
> Is that the kind of thing you would like LGM to become? Because it's
> where things are heading to, judging by discussions in the past few
> years.
>
> Sorry, but I don't believe in lecturing people and pushing personal
> agenda on them. But I bloody well believe in getting people interested
> with excellent works of art, cool software and direct access to its
> developers, workshops etc. Do you think LGM would be the right
> conference to do just that?
>
> Alex
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