[LGM] should LGM or its site have something to say about Charlie Hebdo?

[Louis Desjardins]

2015-01-18 9:48 GMT-05:00 Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>:

> > Perhaps the calm light of April will suggest an appropriate means to
> > express our support and concerns in Toronto. It would also allow for
> > some form of expression by a number of attendees without some overall
> > endorsement by LGM as a whole.
>
> I would like to see a meeting at LGM, at least something we can use to
> sit down and talk about group policies. Does LGM promote freedom or
> just use it. Which kinds of specific freedoms? It'd be good to get
> this all written down so we can use it as a guide in the future when
> an issue like this comes up.
>

I think this is a good idea.

At the same time, I am a little bit perplex as just how further would the
discussion go if we were sitting in front of each other, than what we can
already achieve here on this list. I know discussing in writing can
sometimes lead to unexpected dissensions or misunderstanding since we are
missing the body language and the tone of the voice but nevertheless...

The sad thing some of us discover is it’s difficult to reach a consensus on
what some here believe is an "obvious call" and others, who believe that is
has nothing do to with LGM. Difficult because all the people here are very
closely working on LGM projects, so it appears that we do have lots in
common. At the same time, discussion like this one show just how far we can
be at some time.

I share the sadness of Camille and certainly the sadness of others who
remained silent.

While I think I am usually good at getting the point when there is one, I
feel a bit robbed here, intellectually speaking. Arguments in favor are
easy to find and they are not so numerous, but they are strong. Arguments
against, starting by no arguments at all (plain and flat "no" or "it has
nothing to do with LGM" — Ah? Why? — Poor to no answer) or wrong statement
(the Muslim designers who in fact need to be Arabs of any religion is my
best example here — why would someone need to be of a specific religion to
help draw fonts is beyond me — sorry Dave this was not your best
intervention — unless it would be a variation of a type design used by a
language specific to a religion using specific glyphs not used elsewhere
than in religious books, now I would buy the argument), these people with
no arguments have taken the lead, in the name of LGM.

>From a crowd of people known for its capacity of being verbose, articulated
and, for most if not all, well acquainted with the scientific process, this
is mind boggling. If at least there was an argument someone can understand
as such and not only an opinion based on short informations or based on the
misunderstanding of the fundamentals we’ve been raising here, but as far as
I can tell, this is not the case.

Deception.

Now... I’ll take the counsel from Pat and go and edit the website, put the
info that’s needed to help you find travel to LGM, find good food and
affordable accommodation. Now, *that’s useful* and we have a consensus on
that. Great. After all, it’s the 10th LGM, let’s cheer up.

Louis


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