[LGM] LGM 2019 - Funding

[Frank Trampe]

Hi, Pippin.

I know that this was offered, but I don't remember executing an agreement
or any formal terms/restrictions. Even if there were a formal agreement,
it's in the GIMP project's interest for LGM to be as big a success as
possible, and this money would go a long way towards making it so,
particularly if it allows the GIMP to spend some of the money it currently
spends on travel and video elsewhere. Certainly, for FontForge, which is
admittedly not as financially resourced as the GIMP, freeing up some of the
money currently spent on travel does a lot for the engineering budget.

I do not see the harm of having a corporate sponsor for the event, or at
least one as friendly to the cause as Google. I'm sure that the relevant
decision-makers at Google realize that LGM is dedicated to free software,
and nobody is trying to subvert that. In fact, Google is a rather generous
contributor to free software, including FontForge at one time, and a large
portion of the technologies that make the web a first-class platform for
presenting graphics (from font support to video codecs) are probably ten
years ahead of where they might be otherwise thanks to Google's support of
standards and free software to enable such functionality.

It is always important to be alert for enemies on the prowl, but labeling
99% of the world as "enemy" and driving away potential friends does not
reflect well on an organization or advance its mission. As before, I don't
know the status of the GIMP/LGM agreement. But, whatever it is, if I were
in your position, I would be thrilled to void whatever agreement was in
place and to keep my project's money for its core activities.



On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM Øyvind Kolås <pippin at gimp.org> wrote:

> Not fine!
>
> GIMP approached LGM earlier this year with the intent to sponsor video
> recording and a social event. It was offered under the condition that
> GIMP is the only sponsor of the videos - *not* appearing as a
> co-sponsor of the videos together with google, possibly not even being
> mentioned - which has been the tradiion when the shoestring budget run
> GIMP project has bailed LGMs budget in various ways in the past,
> including funding the reimbursement of global travel budget some
> years. GIMP was told by LGM that the google money was fine with being
> used *only* for sponsoring the travel budget - as long as the videos
> end up on youtube; under a permissive license.
>
> GIMP is continuing to want to sponsor video recordings for LGM under
> the same conditions. We do this - both because the recordings are
> important to have in good quality and we want to keep the recordings
> free of google advertising. LGM videos should not become an
> advertising board for corporations; please lets limit that to the
> website.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:40 PM Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 08:47, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 7:21 AM Soenke Zehle <soenke at kein.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regarding the credits - since GIMP / CCC also help with the videos, we
> >>> may have to adjust the credits to reflect that.
> >>
> >>
> >> Great! Please tell me what the credits should be and I'll update the
> contract
> >
> >
> > We don't need to block contract execution on the wording. I propose this
> for the contract:
> >
> > - - - 8< - - -
> >
> > - A statement in the description field of each video uploaded to YouTube
> that includes a text approved by Google. For example: "This presentation
> was recorded on 1st June 2019 as part of Libre Graphics Meeting 2019, at
> the Hochschule der Bildenden Künste Saar in Saarbruecken, Germany. The
> recording and publication of this talk was made possible by generous
> sponsorship from Google (fonts.google.com), GIMP (gimp.org), and Chaos
> Computer Club (www.ccc.de)"
> >
> > - An image or set of images that uses the Google logo, any other logos,
> and communicates the above statement visually shall be included at the
> start of each video for 3 seconds or longer, subject to design approval by
> Google before publication.
> >
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