[LGM] LGM 2019 - Funding

[Soenke Zehle]

Hi all,

would love to see this resolved soonest as travel money availability might
determine whether someone attends or not.

One option: post-produce the videos twice, once w/ logos, once w/o, and
then everyone can decide which to share in her/his networks. Since videos
are released under an open licence, any user would be free to do that
anyway.

Best,

Soenke


Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 1. Mai 2019, 17:12:

> Hi, Pippin.
>
> I know that this was offered, but I don't remember executing an agreement
> or any formal terms/restrictions. Even if there were a formal agreement,
> it's in the GIMP project's interest for LGM to be as big a success as
> possible, and this money would go a long way towards making it so,
> particularly if it allows the GIMP to spend some of the money it currently
> spends on travel and video elsewhere. Certainly, for FontForge, which is
> admittedly not as financially resourced as the GIMP, freeing up some of the
> money currently spent on travel does a lot for the engineering budget.
>
> I do not see the harm of having a corporate sponsor for the event, or at
> least one as friendly to the cause as Google. I'm sure that the relevant
> decision-makers at Google realize that LGM is dedicated to free software,
> and nobody is trying to subvert that. In fact, Google is a rather generous
> contributor to free software, including FontForge at one time, and a large
> portion of the technologies that make the web a first-class platform for
> presenting graphics (from font support to video codecs) are probably ten
> years ahead of where they might be otherwise thanks to Google's support of
> standards and free software to enable such functionality.
>
> It is always important to be alert for enemies on the prowl, but labeling
> 99% of the world as "enemy" and driving away potential friends does not
> reflect well on an organization or advance its mission. As before, I don't
> know the status of the GIMP/LGM agreement. But, whatever it is, if I were
> in your position, I would be thrilled to void whatever agreement was in
> place and to keep my project's money for its core activities.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM Øyvind Kolås <pippin at gimp.org> wrote:
>
>> Not fine!
>>
>> GIMP approached LGM earlier this year with the intent to sponsor video
>> recording and a social event. It was offered under the condition that
>> GIMP is the only sponsor of the videos - *not* appearing as a
>> co-sponsor of the videos together with google, possibly not even being
>> mentioned - which has been the tradiion when the shoestring budget run
>> GIMP project has bailed LGMs budget in various ways in the past,
>> including funding the reimbursement of global travel budget some
>> years. GIMP was told by LGM that the google money was fine with being
>> used *only* for sponsoring the travel budget - as long as the videos
>> end up on youtube; under a permissive license.
>>
>> GIMP is continuing to want to sponsor video recordings for LGM under
>> the same conditions. We do this - both because the recordings are
>> important to have in good quality and we want to keep the recordings
>> free of google advertising. LGM videos should not become an
>> advertising board for corporations; please lets limit that to the
>> website.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:40 PM Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 08:47, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 7:21 AM Soenke Zehle <soenke at kein.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regarding the credits - since GIMP / CCC also help with the videos, we
>> >>> may have to adjust the credits to reflect that.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Great! Please tell me what the credits should be and I'll update the
>> contract
>> >
>> >
>> > We don't need to block contract execution on the wording. I propose
>> this for the contract:
>> >
>> > - - - 8< - - -
>> >
>> > - A statement in the description field of each video uploaded to
>> YouTube that includes a text approved by Google. For example: "This
>> presentation was recorded on 1st June 2019 as part of Libre Graphics
>> Meeting 2019, at the Hochschule der Bildenden Künste Saar in Saarbruecken,
>> Germany. The recording and publication of this talk was made possible by
>> generous sponsorship from Google (fonts.google.com), GIMP (gimp.org),
>> and Chaos Computer Club (www.ccc.de)"
>> >
>> > - An image or set of images that uses the Google logo, any other logos,
>> and communicates the above statement visually shall be included at the
>> start of each video for 3 seconds or longer, subject to design approval by
>> Google before publication.
>> >
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