[LGM] LGM 2019 - Funding

[Frank Trampe]

Sorry. I misread the chat. I was distracted by the other comment in the
message.

So the GIMP folks did clearly state that they would not allow co-branding
of the videos but also that it would be okay to post the videos on YouTube.

I assume that this discussion proceeded to a sponsorship agreement between
the GIMP and the local hosts under those terms.

So I renew my query from before. Could we reach some arrangement by which
we post co-branded videos in one place and GIMP-exclusive videos in another?


On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:26 PM Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:21 PM Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Hi!
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:10 AM Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that we need to be faithful to past agreements/obligations, but
>>> we need to know what those are in order to do so. Would somebody involved
>>> provide here the full agreement (in whatever form that might be) regarding
>>> the GIMP's LGM sponsorship?
>>>
>>
>> The parts I have from copy-pastes. No idea if some sentences are missing
>> in-between:
>>
>> 16:27 < soenke> @pippin re sponsoring - Google can help but easiest for
>> them would be videos w/ logo (only proof needed, money can go to general
>> travel budget as we). Would that work if Gimp also comes on board f
>> sponsorship?
>> 16:40 < pippin> soenke: trying to gather response, but I am quite sure it
>> will be NO
>> 16:42 < pippin> soenke: offer google their logo on the website and/or
>> printed program, GIMP funds are ear-marked not for general travel,  since
>> continuing that practice is a bit unfaithful to the people who have
>> donating the funds to GIMP.
>> 16:47 < soenke> @pippin ok will tell them
>> 16:54 < soenke> @pippin ok spoke with Google - all is fine as long as
>> videos (also) end up on youtube
>>
>> That sounds like the Google logo can go on videos? Are we missing context
> about whose logo that is?
>
>
>> I think that it's important to understand people's priorities here. My
>>> understanding is that the GIMP pays for its own travel and for the video
>>> services not for the sponsorship credit but to keep our rather fragile
>>> event alive. If some other party is willing to pick up those costs instead,
>>> would the GIMP really say no to that just to keep exclusive sponsorship
>>> recognition?
>>>
>>
>> I didn't say this at all.
>> You are twisting my words and this is completely uncool. So much that I'm
>> not sure I want to continue this discussion.
>> This kind of rethorical techniques are totally uncalled for and not the
>> way to a sane discussion.
>>
>> I was not saying that you said that. I was backing up your argument that
> there was definitely room to work this out, regardless of what prior
> agreement might be in place.
>
>
>> Jehan
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:00 PM Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At this point, I think it's a matter of unruffling feathers and then
>>>> seeing if this can be worked out. If Google is insistent on sole funding
>>>> for the videos, then it may be that they need to be told this is not
>>>> available. If they can be flexible, considering that the potential partner
>>>> in sponsoring is not a competitor, and indeed one of the prime projects to
>>>> start LGM in the first place (I hope they don't need to be told this).
>>>>
>>>> Gimp must have its due in this situation, just as we would be fair if
>>>> some other concern approached us about funding after Google. We need to
>>>> have some clear points for Dave to take back to them to see if it can be
>>>> worked out.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
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