[LGM] LGM 2019 - Funding

[Frank Trampe]

I missed the first part of the discussion and cannot report definitively on
its results. It would be nice if somebody with the full log could post.
Given the rapidly approaching deadline on the printing, I reraise my
proposal to print materials subject to pending deadlines with the
assumption that we will reach a deal on Google sponsorship.


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 10:51 AM Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:

> I'm discussing this on #lgm now
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 11:33 AM Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> At this point, the matter of the sponsorship is essentially out of our
>> hands. We can't seem to accept it without a waiver from the GIMP team, and,
>> on the flip side, I don't think that we would oppose any deal reached
>> between the GIMP team and Google. It also seems to me that we are still
>> some distance from any deal, as the GIMP team still need to decide in
>> general terms, as a group, what is acceptable as a prerequisite to forging
>> a specific deal.
>>
>> In the interest of keeping options open, I would propose that we include
>> Google branding on any materials that must be finalized prior to the
>> conclusion of the GIMP/Google negotiations. I'm not sure how others feel,
>> but I would be much happier giving away free logo space on a printed
>> program than foreclosing on the opportunity to cover travel costs this
>> year. Unless there is some breakthrough in the negotiations, I think that
>> this is the decision on our plate today.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:41 AM Aude Poilroux <ap at k8.design> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear everyone,
>>>
>>> we need urgently a decision under which conditions we can accept the
>>> Google sponsoring. Since communication items such as the LGM poster will be
>>> printed tomorrow, *we need a final decision today*.
>>>
>>> If the LGM community does not accept the Google sponsoring, we will have
>>> to recalculate the general budget and see which budgets cuts are still
>>> possible (quite a lot of financial issues have already been negotiated and
>>> accepted, google sponsoring will be mainly used for travel cost
>>> reimbursement and communication costs).
>>>
>>> Thank you for your quick answer
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Aude - for the local organisation team
>>>
>>> Aude Poilroux
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>>> Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 18:29 Uhr schrieb Jehan <jehan at girinstud.io>:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> First of all, thanks for the various subsequent emails. It seems that
>>>> the issue is well understood and appreciated by most (i.e. the issue
>>>> **not** being that we want some kind of unique recognition or  a
>>>> GIMP-branded video 🙄).
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-05-03 21:11, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>>> > Hi
>>>> >
>>>> > It seems this was discussed on 4th of March on irc, if anyone has the
>>>> > link to the public irclog that might be helpful.
>>>> >
>>>> > I found a chat log with me and Soenke where we discussed this on that
>>>> > day, please find attached screenshot. My second draft that I posted
>>>> > yesterday is based on the idea posed to me in that chat.
>>>> >
>>>> > My intent was never a "permanantly visible logo", like an overlay all
>>>> > over the length of the video;
>>>>
>>>> Yeah I understood that is not what was asked. For the record, I would
>>>> have been completely against this!
>>>>
>>>> > it was always a slide with either just
>>>> > Google, or all the sponsors, at the start/end of each video for a few
>>>> > seconds.
>>>>
>>>> I would not agree with a slide with Google logo only personally unless
>>>> it could be made in a very unintrusive way (but really, I don't see
>>>> how). Basically this event is not called "Google Libre Graphics
>>>> Meeting"
>>>> and I certainly don't want a single big company to seemingly get
>>>> "ownership" of the events just because they give big money. Our "souls"
>>>> are not for sale.
>>>>
>>>> Now I would find fair a page with **all** the corporate sponsors with a
>>>> clear text explaining these are events sponsor. Though I think this
>>>> page
>>>> could only be at the end with the credits (I would find it quite
>>>> oppressive at the start, still for the same reason).
>>>>
>>>> Now this is only my personal vote, not GIMP decision. This would have
>>>> to
>>>> be discussed with the others first and considering our last vote, I
>>>> believe this may not go this way.
>>>>
>>>> > I sponsor a number of type design community events around the world,
>>>> > any this is the typical sponsor benefit; it's worked both ways (solo
>>>> > logo, multi logos) in the past for other events.
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyway, if the gimp team wants the Google logo only on the website and
>>>> > printed programme, not any videos associated with LGM, please let us
>>>> > know :)
>>>>
>>>> We'll discuss this and tell you, I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Jehan
>>>>
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> > Dave
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