[LGM] Cancel LGM please

[Frank Trampe]

That is true, and, indeed, over half a million people died during last
year's event, but I don't think that that is a sufficient reason in itself
to stop meeting. There is certainly respect due to the dead, but this
respect must be proportional. The world is no better off if we all sit on
our hands until death is permanently defeated or allow emotion to
short-circuit rational decision-making processes.

It may be impossible if so many eminent regular attendees remain
steadfastly opposed to participating, but I don't think that there's
anything immoral about deferring a decision pending better and more timely
information. I hope that you will at least consider keeping an open mind.
It doesn't cost us anything.


On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:08 PM Michael Natterer <mitch at gimp.org> wrote:

> Sorry, but...
>
> no, just no. Stop that nonsense! People are dying and will keep
> dying for a while. This won't be "the local organizers' decision".
>
> LGM can't happen in 2020, period.
>
> Annoyed,
> Mitch
>
> On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 15:40 -0500, Frank Trampe wrote:
> > There are clearly a lot of trade-offs and uncertainties here, and
> > there are
> > a lot of differing predictions. One thing that is certain is that we
> > will
> > all be a lot smarter and better informed in a month, and the cost of
> > buying
> > airfare does not increase considerably so long as we make the 28-day
> > cut-off. It is indeed important to discuss and to develop
> > rescheduling
> > options and remote meeting options for those who are interested. But
> > it is
> > also important keep our options open for as long as it is practical
> > to do
> > so, which I think is the week of April 20th. At that point, if the
> > local
> > organizers still want to host, we can figure out who wants to attend
> > and
> > who wishes not to attend and turn to the alternatives we have hashed
> > out
> > (canceling, rescheduling, or meeting over the Internet) if projected
> > turn-out looks too low.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:21 PM Liam R E Quin <liam at holoweb.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 19:29 +0100, Michael Natterer wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 21:04 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Liam R E Quin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > But i also suggested that the organizers post to the LGM
> > > > > > mailing
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > to propose postponing the event by a year. We need to remain
> > > > > > consensus-
> > > > > > driven. So, thanks for posting about it, Mitch :D
> > > > >
> > > > > As other people already said, an online-only event would make a
> > > > > perfect sense.
> > > >
> > > > I disagree,
> > > >
> > > > LGM is all about meeting people, watching some streams is lame.
> > >
> > > As i said in #lgm,  <ankh> the whole point of LGM is to have a
> > > physical
> > > meeting
> > >
> > > For my part the conference is secondary. If it was a peer-reviewed
> > > academic conference it'd be another matter, as it would affect
> > > careers
> > > and funding (and probably also not be interesting :D :D)
> > >
> > > Would a good compromise be to have a shared hangout as a
> > > possibility,
> > > where people in various projects keep cameras going, and try to
> > > make an
> > > extended hacking session with cross-group stuff?? I'm not sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/
> > >
> > > Full-time slave in voluntary servitude.
> > >
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