[LGM] Cancel LGM please

Felipe Sanches juca at members.fsf.org
Sun Mar 29 04:38:43 UTC 2020


I'd suggest we could have Rennes in 2021 and a fully online LGM 2020 in the
same fashion as FSF's LibrePlanet 2020:

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet-2020-in-person-component-canceled-but-well-see-you-online

happy hacking,
Felipe Sanches

Em dom., 29 de mar. de 2020 às 00:03, Joao S. O. Bueno <gwidion at gmail.com>
escreveu:

>
> I would like to have LGM in Rennes bumped to 2021 if possible.
> (Even the summer olympic games are doing the same)
>
> Maybe we could save the dates and make some online meetings,
> maybe some presentations, on the LGM dates for 2020 but
> that would not have to be called "LGM 2020".
>
> best regards,
>
>   joao
>
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 19:53, Frank Trampe <frank.trampe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That is true, and, indeed, over half a million people died during last
>> year's event, but I don't think that that is a sufficient reason in itself
>> to stop meeting. There is certainly respect due to the dead, but this
>> respect must be proportional. The world is no better off if we all sit on
>> our hands until death is permanently defeated or allow emotion to
>> short-circuit rational decision-making processes.
>>
>> It may be impossible if so many eminent regular attendees remain
>> steadfastly opposed to participating, but I don't think that there's
>> anything immoral about deferring a decision pending better and more timely
>> information. I hope that you will at least consider keeping an open mind.
>> It doesn't cost us anything.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:08 PM Michael Natterer <mitch at gimp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, but...
>>>
>>> no, just no. Stop that nonsense! People are dying and will keep
>>> dying for a while. This won't be "the local organizers' decision".
>>>
>>> LGM can't happen in 2020, period.
>>>
>>> Annoyed,
>>> Mitch
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 15:40 -0500, Frank Trampe wrote:
>>> > There are clearly a lot of trade-offs and uncertainties here, and
>>> > there are
>>> > a lot of differing predictions. One thing that is certain is that we
>>> > will
>>> > all be a lot smarter and better informed in a month, and the cost of
>>> > buying
>>> > airfare does not increase considerably so long as we make the 28-day
>>> > cut-off. It is indeed important to discuss and to develop
>>> > rescheduling
>>> > options and remote meeting options for those who are interested. But
>>> > it is
>>> > also important keep our options open for as long as it is practical
>>> > to do
>>> > so, which I think is the week of April 20th. At that point, if the
>>> > local
>>> > organizers still want to host, we can figure out who wants to attend
>>> > and
>>> > who wishes not to attend and turn to the alternatives we have hashed
>>> > out
>>> > (canceling, rescheduling, or meeting over the Internet) if projected
>>> > turn-out looks too low.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:21 PM Liam R E Quin <liam at holoweb.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 19:29 +0100, Michael Natterer wrote:
>>> > > > On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 21:04 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>>> > > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Liam R E Quin wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > But i also suggested that the organizers post to the LGM
>>> > > > > > mailing
>>> > > > > > list
>>> > > > > > to propose postponing the event by a year. We need to remain
>>> > > > > > consensus-
>>> > > > > > driven. So, thanks for posting about it, Mitch :D
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > As other people already said, an online-only event would make a
>>> > > > > perfect sense.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I disagree,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > LGM is all about meeting people, watching some streams is lame.
>>> > >
>>> > > As i said in #lgm,  <ankh> the whole point of LGM is to have a
>>> > > physical
>>> > > meeting
>>> > >
>>> > > For my part the conference is secondary. If it was a peer-reviewed
>>> > > academic conference it'd be another matter, as it would affect
>>> > > careers
>>> > > and funding (and probably also not be interesting :D :D)
>>> > >
>>> > > Would a good compromise be to have a shared hangout as a
>>> > > possibility,
>>> > > where people in various projects keep cameras going, and try to
>>> > > make an
>>> > > extended hacking session with cross-group stuff?? I'm not sure.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/
>>> > >
>>> > > Full-time slave in voluntary servitude.
>>> > >
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