[LGM] [CREATE] server migration of the IRC channel?

Timothée Giet animtim at gmail.com
Mon May 24 16:56:27 UTC 2021

Le 24/05/2021 à 18:39, Mica Semrick a écrit :
> Why not take this opportunity to jump into the future and move the
> chat to matrix officially?
> -m

To answer just this point:

From my personal experience with matrix, I don't see it as a good
replacement for a few reasons.

I've tried several times to use it, but my main problems are:
-the clients are much heavier to run (I can see the impact on my
computer, for something running all day while working irc is much more
-every time I've tried to read long backlogs on some matrix channels,
it's been super laggy/unusable for me

There are a few more points I could add to the list, but these two
already make me want to stay on irc.

So while for some people matrix is good enough, I think keeping an irc
channel with a matrix bridge is still the only way to get the best of
both worlds and have all the users happy.

> On May 24, 2021 8:39:21 AM PDT, "Timothée Giet" <animtim at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>     Hello,
>     Some of you probably followed the story, some may not... To make it 
>     -Most (if not all) of the volunteer staff running the freenode IRC
>     server have resigned because of a conflict with a company that took-over
>     the network.
>     (more info here: https://www.kline.sh/ <https://www.kline.sh/> )
>     -They created a new network to replace it: libera.chat
>     Lots of projects and communities already migrated to libera, or other
>     networks.
>     So first, the big question is:
>     -Should we officially migrate the #lgm channel there?
>     The biggest concern I've read against doing this right now is that
>     libera is not yet bridged to matrix, so it can be an issue for those who
>     want to rely on it to have a persistent log independent from their
>     connection.
>     Though such bridge is underway
>     (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1324), <https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1324),> but
>     may not be ready before the conference.
>     The second point is about the conference this week:
>     As last year we intend to have the main discussion channel of the
>     conference on IRC (at #lgm-online, keeping #lgm for side discussions).
>     Considering the situation with freenode, I would feel less comfortable
>     using it for the conference.
>     So we plan to use the libera server at least for the conference. To 
>     safe I already registered #lgm and #lgm-online channels on libera.
>     I hope this won't be a problem. If there is strong disagreement we may
>     stay on freenode for the event, but it would be better to be allowed to
>     move to libera for this.
>     Cheers,
>     Timothée
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