[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141452] Rename Tools > Chapter Numbering back to Outline Numbering

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452

--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1)
> I think "Chapter" is the only way to make in unambiguous.

Chapter is unambiguous - but in the wrong way: It's unambiguously not what the
user is looking for, so will unambiguously be skipped.

It is also unambiguously false - as the dialog does not allow for any
definition involving Chapters.

> "Outline" is
> already used for a set of predefined list styles and that has resulted in
> the confusion.

I'm not following. What predefined list styles? I don't see list styles named
"outline". The predefined list styles are named "Bullet (whatever)" and
"Numbering (whatever)".

> If a literal translation of "Chapter" is not meaningful for a language, then
> this can be solved in the localization.

You're flipping the majority case. It is not the common or typical case for
"Chapter Numbering" to mean numbering of things which aren't chapters, in a
document without chapters. My French, Dutch and German are all too poor to
comment on that use in these languages, but it's certainly the exception rather
than the rule.

So, what I'm suggesting is that customary use in Dutch, German and French be
maintained through the localization, but that the name (in the code, and in the
English UI) be returned to "Outline Numbering".

> I do not see problem S1. If I search in the help for "outline numbering" the
> link goes to the correct help page "chapter numbering". That help page might
> need a hint, why the title is not "Outline numbering".

If users need to consult the Help so as to be able to decipher the incorrect
naming of the menu item - that's your problem right there.

> I do not see problem S2. It is called "chapter numbering", which implicates
> for me, that there exist already a "chapter".

That _is_ the problem - because there are no chapters, nor can we create
chapters.

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