[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Apr 26 13:43:16 PDT 2012

* Present:
	+ Norbert, Stephan, Caolan, Eike, Thorsten, Markus,
	  Kohei, Cedric, Andras, Bjoern, Tor, Kendy, Ellie,
	  Rainer, Michael S, Michael M, Petr, Lubos, Mitch

* Completed Action Items
	+ poke RedHat security guy wrt. keys (Caolan)
	+ investigate ChromeOS fonts (Caolan)
		+ Google purchased liberation, and added more glyphs
		  best solution is to merge glyphs into Liberation,
		  for now, wait on Liberation guys to get it sorted.
AA:		re-visit ChromeOS fonts in 2 weeks (Caolan)
	+ investigate Liberation Narrow (Bjoern)
		+ it is included, no problem / action required
	+ firewall issues for new linux tinderbox (Thorsten)
		+ Norbert getting it setup

* Pending Action Items
	+ add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten)
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
	+ [pending] pull up misc. internal versions for 3.6 (Fridrich)
	+ get headers to allow rtl:: namespace omitted in soon (Lubos)
		+ but not do the big seds yet

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.5.3 status
		+ builds for rc2 are being pushed to mirrors, to be
		  announced tomorrow - on track for release next week.
		+ thanks for help tripple reviewing patches etc.
	+ 3.5.4 - two weeks free before May 14th freeze.
	+ 3.6 status
		+ nothing new; June 4th feature-freeze in five weeks.

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ community bonding period started
		+ to help people feel at home, get them on IRC etc.
		+ get them commit access, setup etc.
		+ please CC me on freedesktop account bugs - with details.
	+ 10x accepted students:
	  Andrzej Hunt - Smartphone remote control for Impress
	  ArturoPL - Tooling - More and better tests
	  Brennan Vincent - Implementing a Microsoft Publisher import filter
	  Daniel Bankston - Calc Performance Improvements
	  Daniel Korostil - Lightproof improvements
	  Gökcen Eraslan - Signed PDF export
	  iainb - Java GUI for Libre-Office Based Android App(s)
	  Marco Cecchetti - Enhanced Impress svg export filter
	  Matúš Kukan - Telepathy for collaboration
	  Rafael - New templates picking UI

* configure.in options (Caolan/Lubos)
	+ should configure auto-detect libs on system
	+ pro:
		+ makes it easier for new people to build
	+ con:
		+ problems with unexpected changes hurting
		  packagers / release engineers.
	+ requirement (Bjoern)
		+ have a mode where explicit enable/disable
		  states are hard-tested to avoid new &
		  interesting bugs. an --[no]-auto-magic ideal
	+ longer term issue of not enabling components we
	  bundle by default.
	+ already have an option to force using system libs
	  have another one to force internal libs for
	  everything (Petr)
		+ default state prefers system libraries
		+ many distros prefer system libraries already
	+ desire to move to more -system packages for modern
	  Linux / unix systems eg. zlib (Caolan)
		+ icu updates can cause behavioural changes with
		  the unicode std. so the internal version is
		  recommended - bit of a mine-field.
		+ this is not shown anywhere (Lubos!)
		+ ergo should not default to system icu (Caolan)
			+ at users' own risk.
	+ always a grey zone of old vs. new versions (Stephan)
	+ why not use distro-configs still (Norbert)
		+ makes things worse
	+ implement the auto-magic feature if enable by an option (Lubos)
		+ without feature enabled - behaves as today
		+ needs to be tested on 3x platforms and produce an
		  identical config_host.mk vs. previous setup
		  before merge.
		+ beef up summary at end of configure
		  safe/dangerous/not recommended etc. eg. ICU

* stripping binaries or not (Petr)
	+ don't strip solver, nor during make install
	+ we have a make install-strip
		+ which saves 80 megabytes in the system
		+ RPM does this later automatically

* Noel's nice repeated format re-work (Eike)
	+ looks good, need another attribute in the style section of ODF
AA:	+ propose a new attribute to the ODF/TC (Eike / Thorsten)

* tinderboxen / status (Norbert)
	+ bytemark - re-booting/rdesktop issues still pending
	+ new linux build-box coming
	+ tinbuild2 - added some gerrit integration
		+ ultimately needs some central co-ordination
		  of platforms in future.

* MSI / packaging work (Ellie)
	+ best to work on master (Norbert)
	+ currently have a SEGV during build lngconvex
AA:	+ help Ellie interactively with mingw crash (Tor)
	+ some perl patches to come
	+ examining custom actions for equivalent build
	+ problems with 'env' changing location (send patch to list)

* QA update (Rainer/Bjoern/Petr)
	+ Rainer distracted by the real world.
	+ MingW build / question
		+ any maintenance on these builds ? stopped testing
		+ latest bug report from March
		+ working on it currently (Ellie)
		+ Stephan not in love / responsible
		+ Tor - not so useful to add too many
		+ happy with nightly MSVC snapshots of master, using them
		  for daily work (nearly perfect) (Rainer)
			+ thus optimistic wrt. 3.6 release already.
	+ German S/W migration manual for authorities
		+ ODF concerns wrt. impress, some validation runs planned
		  and bug filing in the next weeks.
AA:	+ getting Rainer's blog to the planet (Bjoern)

	+ new Bugzilla components (mst)
	+ change assignee for NEEDINFO, VERIFICATION, ... ? (Bjorn/Rainer/Petr)
		+ both topics punted to next week: lack of time

* Use gerrit ! test it / give it a hard time (Bjoern)
	+ the repo there will never get merged back,
	  so play and try to do evil stuff.
	+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/
	+ Norbert to merge change-id tweak to git-hooks

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 71 open (of 205) older 68/199 74/201 73/193 66/183 58/168 57/157 58/153 52/145 49/140
	     35%                   34%    37%    38%   36%    35%    36%    37%    36%    35%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 150(+0) bugs open of 497(+12) total

	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 52 (-2)
	+ Presentation - 23 (+0)
	+ LibreOffice  - 17 (-1)
	+ Writer / RTF - 12 (-1)
	+ Drawing      - 10 (+1)
	+ Database     - 8  (+0)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 9  (+2)
	+ Basic        - 2  (+0)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

-- 
michael.meeks at suse.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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