[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Jun 14 08:13:21 PDT 2012

* Present:
	+ Norbert, Rainer, Eike, Lionel, Michael, Stephan, Andras,
	  Cedric, Bjoern, Kendy, Astron, Petr, Mitch

* Completed Action Items
        + add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten)
	+ poke at Windows 8 certification requirements (Andras)
		+ ran the test kit on LibreOffice, passed with warnings
		+ clean uninstall modulo
			+ not un-installing fonts - a feature
		+ file signing issues - need to sign executables
		+ tested on 64bit Win8 - works nicely.
	+ update the splash-screen image for 3.6 (Astron)
		+ contest ongoing ... targeted for Beta3

* Pending Action Items
	+ [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly ones (Bjoern)
		+ all of the templates in modulo BrightBlue problems
			+ these show up only in the product
		+ ready in a branch for merge before Beta2

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6 / Beta 1 retrospective
		+ delayed by deluge of commits just before FF.
		+ misc. problems caused by one-off gbuild migrations
		+ testing much encouraged here:
			+ not enough new 3.6 specific bugs
	+ 3.6 / Beta 2
		+ Monday freeze - want all late-features in by then.
	+ 3.5.5
		+ thanks for all the patch reviews !
		+ linux build host failed, Fridrich re-built a replacement
		+ rc1 builds up-loaded, deadline for rc2 is in 25th June
			+ longer window than usual

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ checked-in with a few students this week

* Late features for Beta2
	+ Windows 7 / UI improvements needs 2x more reviews.
		+ Astron: approved the look - with some bug fixes
AI:		+ provide 3rd review of it (Markus)
	+ calc: data-bars & color-scales (Moggi)
		+ Beta1 has most of the core changes for the feature
		+ dialogs & ODF changes were missing & need review / merging
		+ ~1k lines of change
AI:		+ mail this evening for that (Markus)
AI:		+ review Markus' changes (Kendy)
AI:		+ sanity check UI of Markus' changes (Astron)
AI:		+ final sanity check of Kendy's issues (Eike)

* UI / design update (Astron)
	+ icon licensing
AI:		+ send out some mail addresses to poke (Astron)
AI:		+ poke Tango authors (Michael)
	+ default document / style-loading before feature-freeze
		+ not quite ready yet
		+ limited font selection annoying / is it worthwhile ?
		+ needs testing, as to whether updating the std. styles
		  alters future documents, and/or impacts performance
		=> punt to 3.7 post discussion
	+ discussing promoting style use (Kendy/Mirek)
		+ show styles in a drop-down
		+ with a sub-menu for improving the styles

* SQLite vs. HSQLDB for base (Lionel)
	+ SQLite very sloppy typing can cause serious problems cf.
	  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811
		+ no date/time datatype.
		=> perhaps not a good idea to switch to sqlite
		   longer term
		+ without tons of special casing, get lots of
		  nasty bugs outside string, float
	+ a new candidate with sane licensing, sane language,
	  and code size required - thinking ongoing.
	+ our best shot might be firebird
		+ MPL license variant
		+ feature set looks good

* Idiots' guide to using gerrit (Bjoern)
	+ postponed for next week

* Exciting - existing user profile / upgrade bug tracker:
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
	+ potentially split this out into the 3.5 regression
	  breakdown

* gcc 4.7 builds (Bjoern)
	+ is anyone building regularly with this ?
	+ latest Fedora building routinely with that (Stephan)
	+ mostly just new warning cleanup
	+ found an internal compiler error (Bjoern)
	+ subsequenttest failure (Bjoern)
	+ UNO bridges over-aggressive optimisation fix (Stephan)

* MSI cross-compile / packaging (Mitch)
	+ Elidh making good progress, sees MSI files created
	  by the code...

* re-basing update (Michael)
	+ so far ~4k / 60k .[ch] files re-based
	+ more aggressive string cleanups etc. are now welcome in
	  any file containing the new header ie.
	  git grep 'This file is part of the LibreOffice project'

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ bugzilla script failing
		+ Petr to help sort it out after call.
	+ bugzilla submission assistant
		+ ~25 open bugs currently
		+ commit to git & poke Thorsten development cycle
		+ plea to Rob Snelders to help out :-)
	+ funding Tollef to improve bugzilla ...
		+ substantial speedup, OpenID, extensions,
		  reporter invitations etc.
		+ board approved fundin, pending SPI ack.
	+ 3.6 - is it being tested (at all?) ...
		+ please start to use and test it...
		+ only 15 open bugs as of now
		+ QA call to discuss options
AI:		+ post on-line update numbers for 3.6 users (Kendy)

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 68 open (of 231) older 67/229 67/226 62/219 60/213 67/211 68/205 71/205 68/199 74/201
	     29%                   29%    30%    28%    28%    32%    33%    35%    34%    37%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 3 open (of 19) older 4/15 8/13
	     16%                27%  62%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 167(-6) bugs open of 614(+5) total

	+ Started to double-count some classes of regression, to split
	  them out: Crashes and Borders
		+ temporarily distorts graphs
		+ encourages fixing of these bugs

	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 67 (-1)
	+ Presentation - 18 (-3)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 18 (+0)
	+ LibreOffice  - 15 (+0)
	+ Borders      - 12 (-2)
	+ Crashes      - 12 (+1)
	+ Drawing      - 10 (+0)
	+ Writer / RTF - 6  (-1)
	+ Database     - 7  (-1)
	+ Basic        - 2  (+0)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

-- 
michael.meeks at suse.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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