[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call, take 2

Caolán McNamara caolanm at redhat.com
Thu Jan 17 09:07:47 PST 2013


This time the full minutes. Check the areas you're responsible to make
sure I got them right.

* Present:
    + Eike Thorsten Lionel Michael S. Stephan Joel Andras Kendy
      Norbert Bjoern Kohei Markus Eilidh Cedric Fridrich Caolan

* Completed Action Items
    + pasting websites & loosing images - seek agreement that
      default to not link should be fixed (Bjoern)
    + additional SDK examples - provide contrib/ repository (Norbert)
    + close fdo#58275 (Andras)
    + Windows: .Net vs. our install still chasing (Tor / Fridrich)
      assuming this is fdo#58275
    + FOSDEM: Easy QA introduction: bug triage etc. (Cor)
    + mail details on signing etc. to Caolan (Fridrich)
        + needs a GPG public key from Caolan (Caolan)

* Pending Action Items
    + decision on whether to switch back to old floppy save (Astron)
    + regression catching on tinderbox
      Figure out time-out issues (Markus)
    + FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development
      Markus will write to Italo to add Eilidh's talk (Markus)
    + Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Michael M)
    + come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request
      for build hardware => board budget (Thorsten)
    + STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the
          VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich)
    + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
         + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
         + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
    + add impress remote shots to features wiki page (Thorsten)
    + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page
      (Michael M)
    + investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten)
    + on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated
        + add off-line help and it'll appear on-line when kendy
        fixes server load issues.
AI:     + who can write and add off-line help for impress-remote (?)
    + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
    + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
    + tweak the configure defaults (Kendy)
        + no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
    + 4.0 timeline:
        + on-schedule
        + All fixes now need 1x review - don't push your own work
        + RC2 MONDAY 21st DEADLINE FOR TAG, 10/11 AM
            + final RC3 - one week later
        + hard UI / string freeze
            + l10n approval required for string changes.
            + no string changes in final RC3
    + 3.6.5
        + RC2 tagged on Wednesday
        + for any other critical regression wait until after 4.0rc3
    + L10n status: All Quiet
AI: + completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
        + Figure out how to use signing key
        + In Progress, proposal to have a fallback to
          traditional build box in case of epic failure
        + fdo#58165 - drop stdlibs foo

* UX input (Astron)
    + template manager / progress
        + Overall happy
        + Missing Rename Folder/Template, Create Empty Folder, etc.
          (Cedric)
    + Personas
        + Overall happy
        + Fixing Remaining Bugs (Kendy)
        + Initial color picker design
            + call for hackers / hands
            + details at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_Picker
        + Splash screens.
            + new whiteboard for 4.0 branding suggestions at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding
        + T-shirts / FOSDEM promo materials
AI:         + Page Created, Belgian Printing Company contacted (kendy)

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
AI: + Mail Alias (Bjoern)
    + Non-exhaustive public criteria for certification

* FOSDEM update (Markus):
    + Schedule: https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/libreoffice/
    + 5 Mins break between talks
    + Contact Thorsten for travel funding if you'd like to come, but
      aren't for financial reasons

* Features - please update:
    + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0
    + missing Mac / full-screen bits (Tor)

* gerrit / build-bot integration (Norbert)
    + Idea is to flag submitted patches as buildable/failed
        + See pending action item on hardware budget
    + Working on a single tinderbox instance managing multiple branches
      and repos

* 4.0 pending tasks
    + binfilter:
        + warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (no owner)
    + drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902
            + lots of cleanup in configure
    + Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared:
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417
        + close that wontfix & release-note it ?

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
    + devs to to build code-pointers or clear proposed easy-hack for
      these:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* Hard Hacks:
    + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
    + mostly suspended until post 4.0 release.

* QA update (Joel)
    + handling of inappropriate behavior on bz (Bjoern)
        + Bugzilla ban rights for the right people now requested
    + Try and clear this query
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=205374&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&produc
    + Windows XP qa people needed
    + German speakers needed for locale issues
AI: + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
    + close 3-5 bugs which are fixed in 3-6
    + bibisecting really really helps devs

* GSOC
AI: + Update Ideas Page before FOSDEM (All)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas

* SDK
AI: + Investigate native build/env scripts etc. (Bjoern)

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
    + 10 (of 69) older 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18
         14%            22%   27%   32%  26%   29%   35%   29%  22%
    +
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
    + 42 (of 173) older 36/166 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152 33/150
          24%            22%    23%    21%    22%    21%     20%   22%
    +
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
    + 49 (of 266) older 49/266 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279 65/278
          18%            18%    19%    20%    22%    23%    23%    23%
    +
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
    + 40 (of 114) older 43/110
    +
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 243(-2) bugs open of 1144(+35) total

    * ~Component   count net *
    + Writer       - 96 (+1)
    + Presentation - 24 (+0)
    + Spreadsheet  - 23 (+1)
    + Crashes      - 20 (-5)
    + Database     - 17 (-1)
    + LibreOffice  - 15 (-2)
    + Drawing      - 15 (+0)
    + Borders      - 11 (+0)
    + Migration    - 5  (+0)
    + Basic        - 3  (-1)
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%
20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
    + Migration:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1



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