[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Feb 25 16:52:28 UTC 2016
* Present:
+ Michael, Kendy, Olivier, Bjoern,Stephan, Caolán, Eike, Robinson, Norbert,
Sophie, Armin, Christian, Michael S, jan I, Miklos, Muthu
* Completed Action Items:
+ fixed EasyHacks not showing up (JanI, Christian)
+ Review JanI's GSOC submission (Thorsten)
[ reviewed submitted ]
+ create a tender to improve fonts for the board (Design Team)
[ Francisco Adrián S. who raised the problem with Carlito and Caladea fonts,
hope to collect it into a tenderable form -
AI: and poke Google & RedHat too ? (Kendy, Caolan) ]
+ Parag Nemade <pnemade at redhat.com> is google-crosextra-[caladea|carlito]-fonts maintainer
+ come up with a hackfest 2016 travel estimate (Bjoern)
+ 2015 numbers and participant counts (unaffiliated, non TDF-members:
- Las Palmas 1127.32EUR for 8 (1, 1 )
- Cambridge 1193.70EUR for 14 (1, 1 )
- Hamburg 112.75EUR for 20 (4, 12+) (plus two job interviews, not included)
- Madrid 752.80EUR for 7 (1, 3 )
- FOSDEM N/A
AI: + submit below to board: (Bjoern)
+ 2016 budget proposal:
- Las Palmas 1000 Eur
- Turkey 2000 Eur
- Hamburg 500 Eur
- Spain? 1000 Eur
- US/Boston? 1000 Eur
- FOSDEM 3500 Eur
- Foss Asia 1500 Eur
- DLP 1000 Eur
- gerrit conf 1000 Eur
- speaker/booth swag 500 Eur
[ added after meeting - for newbies - T-shirts etc. ]
- Hardware 3000 Eur
- indiv dev. H/w SSDs, Macs,
AI: move it to the right place (Norbert)
+ talk with Norbert and hand doxygen generation over to sysadmin (Miklos)
+ build dev. SSD, PC, Mac, headsets budget (Michael)
* Pending Action Items:
+ UI changes from non-committers in gerrit: post list to UX team (Kendy)
[ assigned to kendy and push to list ]
+ double-check duplicate libmar/src, update/src (Kendy)
+ update release plan for 5.2 and 5.3 (Christian)
+ setup a tinderbox VM for VS. 2015 (Christian)
* Release Engineering update (Christian/JanI)
+ improved the releng instructions
+ tagged & builds being done.
+ will further improve docs together next week
+ 5.0.6 RC1 - due April 12th.
+ 5.1.1 RC2 due this week
+ first build with Jan - prolly tag will be Wed to avoid late nights.
Tagging done, build pending (janI)
+ Late Features (for 5.1.2)
+ New Slide Transitions: polish
[ ... debugging & work - some Intel fixing ]
+ UserAgent display & tweakage
[ still not done ... ]
+ URL for the online documentation needs change (Bjoern)
[ still pending ]
+ concern wrt. features (Norbert)
+ somewhat un-panicy release (Bjoern)
+ nothing major happening (Michael)
+ 5.1.2 RC1 week 11, March 15th
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ updates planned after build prep.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ hacking XML files - and built a site with helpcontent.
+ trying to have it directly available in a browser.
+ http://hc3.edx.srv.br
+ not ready yet.
+ different to wikihelp ? (Michael)
+ another approach; can make pages richer.
+ currently mimic help file.
+ can we have it in dev-tools ? (Kendy)
+ plan not to touch XHP files, just:
+ transform & display in browser.
+ some additions to documentation:
+ new help files for some new calc functions
+ changes in UI getting updated in the help.
+ someone new on docs mailing-list (Kendy)
+ can you welcome & mentor ?
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten, JanI)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
+ 3 admin volunteers: janI, Moggi, Thorsten
+ Application filed and available on wiki, for later years (janI)
+ next step - mid next month: opens for students to apply.
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ some time discussing the side-bar & its width
+ a survey coming out on what users expect & want there.
+ Q - what happens when MS Office opens a doc with Carlito ?
+ when export to word we have a fallback for that (Caolan)
+ VCL.xcu - font name graveyard (Michael)
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 11 import failures, 1 export failures, 49 coverity
+ import odp new EmptyProperties assert
+ docs were prolly wrong in the past.
+ export odp recurse to death in svg reader
+ import svg recurse to death issues
+ waiting for help from Xisco
+ coverity run underway, hoping for sub 20 result
+ Stephan fixing Java-ness left & right.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Ankara, Turkey
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Ankara2016
+ talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
+ suggested date: 2016-04-30
AI: + encourage date confirmation (Bjoern)
+ encourage people to add names in the wiki (All)
+ concrete volunteer mentors?
+ will send a Collaboran (Michael)
+ Jan-Marek maybe, moggi if after March, 12th
+ weekend or not ? what preference ?
+ like in the week (Michael)
+ German Community event in Essen
+ would be good to have developers there too ...
+ Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
+ April 6-8th (7-9th) possibly
+ Plan is to craft it according to the Japanese
Mini-Conference, with a broader local community appeal
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibreOffice_Espania_Summit
+ announced on Spanish list (janI)
+ Germany, Munich, LiMux; End of May 2016 (Jan-Marek)
+ Orga: https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2016/05/de/Munich
+ Weekend doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/LiMux_Hackfest_May_2016/
+ 19-21 or 27-29
+ smaller amount of space available this year (Jan-Marek)
+ maybe some general community event around that? (Bjoern)
+ it is a general event, not LO specific (Jan-Marek)
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
+ pretty calm week - working on release & other bits.
+ gerrit: 165 open patches of which 105 can be merged if no open comments
75 from contributors of which 43 can be merged if no open comments
+ Wiki, getInvolved updated with softer wording on license and git commit message
+ Otherwise Work as usual
* xdg-app builds of LibreOffice (Stephan)
+ heads up:
+ would like to eventually provide xdg-app bundle of LO alongside
deb/rpm packages
+ ideally for LO 5.2
+ xdg-app: new format to provide app plus dependencies against a
well-specified platform (similar to apps on Mac, Windows); plus optional
sandboxing
+ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xdg-app>
+ available for ~all distros:
<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps/Packages>
+ example repo with GNOME apps:
<https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps/NightlyBuilds>
+ packaging LO:
+ <http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/development/#Box%20Office:%20The%20xdg-app%20sandboxing%20initiative>
+ single bundle with all langs, online help (and just x86-64)
+ still some details to sort out
+ maybe even possible to backport "xdg-app build" to CentOS 6 (to use
same VM as other TDF Linux builds)
+ is a tinderbox needed ? (Norbert)
+ can we re-use the CentOS6 base-line / builds
+ Jenkins is CentOS7
+ Views:
+ hope it works on CentOS6 base-line (Cloph)
+ no problem providing it if just triggering a build/
+ would be nice to have a list of known-issues (Bjoern)
+ tag in bugzilla ? or own platform.
+ love the idea (Michael)
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ all going well as usual.
+ will create the 5.1 projects for pootle (Christian)
+ early next week.
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ pending next cycle.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Feb 18 14:38:43 2016
master linux rel jobs:182 ok:179 ko:3 fail ratio:1.64% break:3 broken duration:1.22%
master linux dbg jobs:160 ok:149 ko:9 fail ratio:5.62% break:6 broken duration:11.65%
master mac rel jobs:174 ok:170 ko:4 fail ratio:2.29% break:4 broken duration:3.41%
master mac dbg jobs:183 ok:175 ko:7 fail ratio:3.82% break:2 broken duration:1%
master win rel jobs:131 ok:130 ko:1 fail ratio:0.76% break:1 broken duration:0.32%
master win dbg jobs:123 ok:121 ko:2 fail ratio:1.62% break:2 broken duration:0.68%
master win64 dbg jobs:123 ok:121 ko:2 fail ratio:1.62% break:2 broken duration:0.67%
lo-5.0 mac jobs:9 ok:9 ko:0 fail ratio:0% break:0 broken duration:0%
gerrit win rel jobs:311 ok:223 ko:79 fail ratio:25.4%
gerrit lin rel jobs:315 ok:247 ko:68 fail ratio:21.58%
gerrit mac rel jobs:313 ok:254 ko:59 fail ratio:18.84%
gerrit all jobs:311 ok:198 ko:104 fail ratio:33.44%
+ pretty good this week.
* Visual Studio 2015
+ originally wanted only 1x version to avoid cross-influence
+ OTOH 5.1 doesn't build with it
+ concerned wrt. switching tool-chain mid-release.
+ if want to build 5.1 and master - need both.
+ what are relative risks of:
+ 2013+2015 vs. back-porting etc. ?
+ different jenkins slaves ? (JanI)
+ budget good, but not that good.
+ would need to do more setup work etc.
+ goals:
+ obsolete old compiler (nicer C++) - new baseline
+ ensure new builders can build it.
+ tinderbox is good enough ? (Michael)
+ problems with combinations; dbgutil, 32bit, 64bit etc. (Norbert)
+ both compilers on 1x machine (JanI)
+ linker problems, depending
+ not a big issue (Norbert)
+ each tree with its own compiler.
+ different libraries linked in etc.
+ about releases ? (Michael)
+ about Jenkins builds (Norbert)
+ release machines are locked down differently.
+ rather go with install both on T-boxes (Stephan)
+ will find problems in official cloph builds.
+ better than switching to 2015 on 5.1 line
=> install both versions
+ install 2015 on 2013.
+ consensus from all.
* Easy Hacks:
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg.
"easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
(or remove the Keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
+ easyHacks: total 308: 289 waiting for contributor, 9 Assigned to contributors, 7 need info
cleanup: 227 has more than 4 comments, 258 needs to be reviewed
+ new last 8 days:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97966 mentor:tml -> "Drop 'static' for functions inside unnamed namespaces"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97975 mentor:michael.meeks -> "OpenGL: theme / widget cache ..."
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97973 mentor:michael.meeks -> "cleanup spinbuttons theming logic."
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98004 mentor:Samuel.Mehrbrodt -> "Beanshell Editor: Add a toolbar"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98110 mentor:dennisroczek -> "Convert-Script from XHP to MediaWiki modifications"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97977 mentor:dennisroczek -> "FILEOPEN: XSLX - MODE results in wrong calculation"
+ need info (mentor or code pointer), please help:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97283 mentor:dtardon -> "merge unit tests in sal module"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57174 mentor:harman.eric -> "When Opening Any Dialog the First Value in the Dialog Should be Selected"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86214 mentor:luuk34 -> "UI: User isn't warned that entering a cell address is not allowed as range name"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79924 mentor:alban.crequy -> "LibreOffice should use stemp in other directories than $HOME first"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66876 mentor:idler.1st -> "[Sidebar] Large icons are not used"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97803 mentor:d.ostrovsky -> "gbuild: check that everything in instdir/ ends up packaged in the end"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67544 mentor:kobzeci -> "FILESAVE: Slide transistion sound(other sound) is not included in presentation file"
* Gerrit update (Cloph)
+ reminder - expect a 2 hr downtime on Wed.
AI: + talk tomorrow with Norbert (Cloph)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 739
+ really climbing.
+ enhancements: 18
+ in ux-advise: 30
+ needAdvice at 26
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
+ tdf#95709 - [DISPLAY] Presentation mode renders graphics wrong
+ Armin / Thorsten ?
+ tdf#96172 - Crash in layout SwSectionFrame after opening particular document
+ ODT crash [was: Crash on opening DOCX]
+ bibisected;
+ tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
+ Common issue -> lots of duplicates
+ Unfortunately, predates earliest bibisect range for OS X
+ Request for additional 'max' bibisect repos:
Linux daily, 4.2, 4.1; Win 4.4, 4.3
+ building them (Norbert)
+ up-load is not automated
+ git gc kills the box so has to be paused.
+ pre-dates those repos.
+ one epoc is missing.
+ another contains all release versions 3.3->4.3
+ http://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/bibisect/mac/
+ surely part of the coretext move ? (Michael)
+ v. likely (Norbert)
+ Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
+ http://bit.ly/1POJrmp (7 open; 7 open last meeting)
+ (Still pending?) AI: push the last MM fix to 5.0 too
+ about to push some 30x patches (Kendy)
+ mostly the UI.
+ jmux working on fixing things.
+ tdf#96847 - Android viewer crashes on every file (android 4.4.4 & 5.x)
+ Crash persists with daily builds (2016-02-18)
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+209 -154 (+55 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Beluga 21
Maxim Monastirsky 14
Cor Nouws 8
Michael Stahl 7
Timur 6
Samuel Mehrbrodt 6
V Stuart Foote 5
Caolán McNamara 4
Michael Meeks 4
raal 4
Julien Nabet 4
RAV 3
Adolfo Jayme 3
Xisco Faulí 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 1/4 - 25% +0
5.1: 2/25 - 8% +0
5.0: 9/52 - 17% +0
4.4: 12/75 - 16% +0
4.3: 5/68 - 7% -1
4.2: 11/134 - 8% +0
4.1: 4/79 - 5% +0
4.0: 10/81 - 12% +0
old: 39/248 - 15% +0
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 408/1277 403/1260 398/1248 402/1247 408/1242 409/1238 406/1229
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 770(+3) bugs open of 4719(+26) total 31(-3) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 12 (-2)
Writer - 10 (+0)
LibreOffice - 4 (-1)
Base - 2 (+0)
Impress - 2 (+0)
Extensions - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 234 (+0)
Calc - 166 (+4)
LibreOffice - 54 (+0)
Crashes - 54 (-2)
Impress - 52 (+1)
UI - 41 (-2)
graphics stack - 38 (+0)
Borders - 32 (-1)
Base - 28 (+0)
Draw - 27 (+0)
filters and storage - 19 (+0)
BASIC - 15 (+0)
Chart - 15 (+0)
Printing and PDF export- 10 (-1)
Formula Editor - 6 (+0)
Linguistic - 4 (-1)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
framework - 2 (+1)
Installation - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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