[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Sep 29 15:10:12 UTC 2016
hopefully not mangled this week:
* Present:
+ Michael M, janI, Stephan, Armin, Lionel (had to leave early, sorry), Michael S, Robinson, Eike,
Norbert, Andras, Heiko, Kendy, Sophie, Olivier, Thorsten, Xisco,
Noel, Miklos, Cloph, Bubli
* Completed Action Items:
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
[ GStreamer built on the baseline - and compiled against that,
need to add dependencies to our repositories.
5.3 will be vs. gstreamer 1.0 and 0.10 ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ simplify & cleanup broken Windows build instructions & test (JanI)
[ in progress ]
+ align release dates and issues, patch merging (Caolan, Cloph)
[ waiting on AOO decision ]
+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
[ chasing this one ]
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
[ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
David has a patch in gerrit - to do the query completely in gerrit,
will be included in the next release.
Had a google auth. connection issue last week on gerrit.
patch was fairly quick.
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2087
https://github.com/davido/gerrit-oauth-provider/issues/64
David's plugin to allow Google oauth - is there & working. ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
+ still need to get API key, rest is done
[ planned for 5.3 release ]
* Boost system library pickup (Norbert)
+ we were building against this when we shouldn't have.
+ Michael S built a script to look at what binaries we link to.
+ thinking about putting that into the normal gerrit build.
+ white-lists things we are allowed to link to.
+ finds new & not there things.
+ any objections ?
+ a good idea in general (Michael S)
+ only into the build for some special release-build mode.
+ not in general.
+ if you switch configure flags it'll complain about it.
+ will tailor it to builds we do in Jenkins (Norbert)
=> go for it.
* Release Engineering update (Cloph/JanI)
+ 5.2.3 RC1 (janI)
+ will be done in two weeks.
+ 5.1 → 5.1.6 rc1 Oct 4th (janI)
+ due to tag Tuesday evening, will ping on IRC for last-minute bits.
+ 5.3 → 5.3.0 alpha 1 Oct 18th
+ when is the 5.3 feature freeze ? (Heiko)
+ Nov 21st - with the branch-off (Cloph)
+ Android & iOS Remote (Cloph)
+ updating the Android build requirements
+ should have found a workaround for the rendering issue.
+ Windows Server 2016 (Cloph)
+ should we bump our base-line to this ?
+ ideally with VS 2015 as well but ... depends on release.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Corrections on help pages by Gabor Kelemen, Johnny_M.
+ Notebookbar help page waiting for definitive name for the feature
+ new web CMS for documentation download/get involved, entry page
+ WIP, do not publicize widely yet: http://documentation.libreoffice.org
+ some more weeks of work before announce.
+ help and feedback welcome
+ linked to patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/28817/ (link to Doc'tation in Help menu)
+ many offline support for would-be authors. Good will but still a way to go.
+ can we get these people into the IRC channel ? (Bubli)
+ encouraged people to the channel, but ... (Olivier)
+ could we get a telegram bridge to IRC cf. conference (Thorsten)
+ might be interesting to see if we can (Olivier)
+ want to use social networks too.
+ "Join the Documentation Team" button on-line takes you to IRC in the browser
+ Guarani thesaurus patch cleanup.
* UX Update (Heiko)
* 'Muffin' concept proposed by marketing
+ extended toolbar vs. notebookbar
+ http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muffin
+ concern wrt. naming (Norbert)
* Total needsUXAdvice: 483 (-3)
Base 1
Calc 34 (+2)
Draw 69
Extensions 0
filters and storage 1
framework 1
Impress 24 (+1)
Installation 0
LibreOffice 260 (+1)
Localization 0
Printing and PDF export 1
UI 16 (-2)
Writer 76 (+1)
+ numbers are decreasing.
* New topics: 5
+ Find & Replace (tdf#102615; G+ poll)
+ Notebookbar (tdf#102779, 102378)
+ Option tweaks (tdf#102782, 102769)
* Discussion about palettes (tdf#80196, +design ML)
+ Concerns to remove some of them - eg. CMYK (
* remove cmyk, gallery, html, palette, web
+ cluttering up the palette selector.
+ are regressions to be expected ?
+ probably not (Miklos, Armin)
=> apparently non-controversial wrt. removing them.
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ ? import failure, ? export failures
< ?? coverity issues
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Code for Hamburg (Eike)
+ Postponed to next year; can't reach out to students in time.
+ Girls-only event in Berlin, 29th October (Bubli)
+ "Ladies who FOSS" (https://wikimedia.de/wiki/Ladies_that_FOSS)
+ Bubli will be there, and so is Heiko
+ now included into the list of projects: https://wikimedia.de/wiki/Ladies_that_FOSS/Projects
+ built a list of non-code easy-hacks; eg. palette issue.
+ 33c3 CfP open: https://events.ccc.de/2016/09/01/call-for-participation-33rd-chaos-communication-congress-en/ (Bjoern)
+ Anyone interested in a LibreOffice assembly -- or one shared e.g. with FSFE?
+ talks? workshops? deadline: 2016-09-30
+ Hackfest Madrid, december with Gnome (Xisco/janI)
+ waiting for a GNOME contact person.
AI: + connect them with Madrid GNOME guy (Bubli)
+ Hackfest Granada (Xisco/janI)
+ in the early idea phase, but to be in Autumn
* Updating ESC stats (Bjoern)
+ wait for Bjoern to be here - for 4th week (moving house etc.)
* Mentoring / easyhack update (janI)
+ legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/- compared to last week
+ summary:
16464(0) commits in a year of which 7515(-31) were made directly, without use of gerrit
282(-8) people made commits in a year, 57(-10) in a month. 49(1) people to be emailed
+ gerrit: committer open 88(27) contributor open 35(-1)
updated merged abandoned updated merged abandoned
year: 88(27) 7342(24) 595(8) 35(-1) 1607(7) 490(1)
month: 85(24) 638(33) 56(5) 35(-1) 128(-4) 18(2)
week: 56(19) 135(-35) 14(-5) 13(-12) 36(5) 5(3)
+ easyHacks:
total 259(-1) open 253(28) assigned 6(-1) needinfo 0(-28)
needsDevEval 517(36) of which 0(0) are easyHacks
needsUXEval 481(-7) of which 6(0) are easyHacks
missing cleanup due to many comments 217(2)
+ top 5 contributors (based on merged patches last month):
Zdenek Crhonek got 54 patches merged, and have a total of 254 merged patches
Gabor Kelemen got 18 patches merged, and have a total of 21 merged patches
Maarten Bosmans got 9 patches merged, and have a total of 9 merged patches
Stanislav Horáček got 7 patches merged, and have a total of 90 merged patches
Muhammet Kara got 5 patches merged, and have a total of 62 merged patches
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look from an experienced developer
+ create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
+ stats look good; we're merging things more quickly.
+ Changed NEEDINFO to needsDevEval for all easyHacks
+ removed dev list CC from all BZ bugs
+ went through and removed this from everywhere.
+ esc-mentoring script major rewrite to support trend statistic and QA demands.
+ Preparing blog post with video from conference with a note about my past 1 year ago
+ Please remember the community development week, starting october 10th
+ Final work on new contributor acknowledgement (and automation)
+ pending Marina's signature.
+ NEEDINFO is not relevant anymore ? (Heiko)
+ when it has EasyHack and NeedsDevEval that's enough (JanI)
+ from now on don't use NEEDINFO for that.
* Commit Access
Stanislav Horáček got 7 patches merged, and have a total of 90 merged patches ( added - Norbert)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/owner:%22Stanislav+Hor%25C3%25A1%25C4%258Dek+%253Cstanislav.horacek%2540gmail.com%253E%22
Muhammet Kara got 5 patches merged, and have a total of 62 merged patches (added - Norbert)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/owner:%22Muhammet+Kara+%253Cmuhammet.kara%2540pardus.org.tr%253E%22
+ JanI to write welcome mails, and Norbert to press buttons variously (mail sent - janI)
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ work still in-progress ... some three possible names, hunting some more.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
master linux rel jobs: 177 ok: 167 ko: 10 fail ratio: 5.65 % break: 4 broken duration: 8.63%
master linux dbg jobs: 119 ok: 107 ko: 10 fail ratio: 8.40 % break: 3 broken duration: 7.43%
master mac rel jobs: 132 ok: 126 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.79 % break: 3 broken duration: 3.22%
master mac dbg jobs: 128 ok: 113 ko: 15 fail ratio: 11.72 % break: 4 broken duration:17.72%
master win rel jobs: 130 ok: 118 ko: 12 fail ratio: 9.23 % break: 4 broken duration: 4.71%
master win dbg jobs: 139 ok: 129 ko: 10 fail ratio: 7.19 % break: 2 broken duration: 3.37%
master win64 dbg jobs: 137 ok: 126 ko: 10 fail ratio: 7.30 % break: 2 broken duration: 3.55%
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 10 ok: 10 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.1 mac jobs: 7 ok: 7 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
branch gerrit win jobs: 34 ok: 34 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00%
branch gerrit lin jobs: 34 ok: 33 ko: 1 fail ratio: 2.94%
branch gerrit mac jobs: 33 ok: 30 ko: 2 fail ratio: 6.06%
branch gerrit all jobs: 33 ok: 29 ko: 3 fail ratio: 9.09%
master gerrit all jobs: 275 ok: 85 ko: 182 fail ratio:66.18%
+ stats look weird (as in prolly not to be relied upon), prolly internal jenkins problem.
+ overall a bit bumpy since re-install of jenkins..
+ the last line - above - of concern wrt. clang builds.
+ still sporatic issue with build job that actually hang..
delaying everything else until a manual kick.
+ any plan on going back to one Jenkins job again ? (JanI)
+ currently just one job, with four platforms on master (Norbert)
+ fixed with the re-install at the conference.
* l10n (Sophie)
+ nothing new.
* QA update (Xisco)
+ reviewed the bisected bugs this week.
+ handling it so devs can query that ?
+ how to check bisected regressions introduced by you:
'Adding Cc: [your Name]'
+ seeing some progress.
+ Unconfirmed + haveBacktrace: 20
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgibug_status=UNCONFIRMED&keywords=haveBacktrace%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=637649&query_format=advanced
+ UNCONFIRMED: 737
+ enhancements: 68
+ needsUXEval: 25
+ needsDevEval at 519
+ needsConfirmationAdvice at 46
+ Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ tdf#98365 - Crash on first run of 64-bit build with no user profile
+ tdf#98365 - Writer crashes on undo
+ tdf#101528 - Crashes on 3D chart modification
+ tdf#101726 - crash when selecting column and pressing ⌘1 or clicking menubar Format > Cells
+ macOS
+ Had a poke at the new Mac access (Michael)
+ eventually got it to work (Michael S)
+ a workaround necessary for a libc bug.
+ Oracle Java wasn't installed, only the Apple one
+ caused various test failures.
+ these days - no Apple Java since 10.6 (Norbert)
+ would be lovely to have pre-build easy to hack builds (Michael)
+ Closed bugs count - wiping spam (Xisco)
+ bugs filled with lots of random text.
+ do we black-list names/E-mails ? (Armin)
+ close the E-mail as a spammer (Xisco)
+ could be automated perhaps
+ couple using gmail addresses - until user was blocked (Cloph)
+ we bin E-mail address domains too.
+ do the request come from certain IPs ? (Michael)
+ not looked into that yet.
+ Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions
+ 2 open; 2 open last meeting
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+142 -244 (-102 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Xisco Faulí 186
Buovjaga 26
Caolán McNamara 17
m.a.riosv 14
Heiko Tietze 13
V Stuart Foote 9
Jean-Baptiste Faure 9
Alex Thurgood 8
Ákos 5
Mark Hung 5
Eike Rathke 5
Yousuf Philips (jay) 4
tommy27 4
Miklos Vajna 4
Andras Timar 4
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 1/17 - 5%
5.1: 3/31 - 9%
5.0: 7/56 - 12%
4.4: 8/74 - 10%
4.3: 4/69 - 5%
4.2: 7/133 - 5%
4.1: 5/80 - 6%
4.0: 7/82 - 8%
old: 30/246 - 12%
+ http://bit.ly/2dp3mwC
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ 349/1463 349/1445 347/1431 338/1407 325/1390 325/1383 325/1383 333/1383
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 682(-6) bugs open of 5176(+17) total 10(-3) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 4 (+0)
Writer - 3 (-1)
LibreOffice - 1 (-1)
Impress - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (-1)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer: total - 212 (+0)
Calc - 124 (-4)
Writer: other - 123 (+4)
[!?] - should we drop this or Writer:total ?
Impress - 52 (+1)
Writer: docx - 48 (-1)
graphics stack - 43 (+1)
LibreOffice - 39 (-3)
UI - 40 (+1)
Borders - 31 (+0)
Base - 29 (-2)
Writer: doc - 28 (-3)
Crashes - 24 (-5)
Draw - 28 (+0)
filter / storage - 16 (-3)
Chart - 14 (-2)
print / PDF export - 13 (+1)
Writer: perf - 13 (+1)
BASIC - 11 (+0)
Writer: filter - 5 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
Formula Editor - 2 (+0)
framework - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Linguistic - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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